I want to second everything you said, but also go on to qualify that I think having children can absolutely be a particularly excellent experience for people wh

I want to second everything you said, but also go on to qualify that I think having children can absolutely be a particularly excellent experience for people who would visit HN. If you're the nerdy-intellectual type, if you love to learn things, if you love to do projects, raising children offers so many rewards. It's fascinating to watch them grow and achieve things, it gives you first-hand knowledge of the human condition you will surely appreciate, and you are absolutely involved every step of the way. It'll make you research many things, it will make you pick up lots of new skills. It will motivate you to be healthier and have better planning and time management chops. It'll give you an experience that is uniquely and individually yours, akin to posessing a secret knowledge. Do you love that feeling of being productive and time well-spent, when you don't second-guess whether you made your hours count? The obvious purposefulness of every hour with your children will give you that feeling every time, even (and especially) during the hard bits. Lots of things conceive of having children as some form of sacrifice, but there's so much to gain.