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I feel like you've missed the point of this car. N.B. that the Turbo -- the parent model -- doesn't offer a manual. I strongly suspect this car started with "w

I feel like you've missed the point of this car. N.B. that the Turbo -- the parent model -- doesn't offer a manual. I strongly suspect this car started with "what if a Turbo but manual, and geared towards the demographic that wants that option?" A hybrid would, for those people, make this car LESS appealing. I'm not in the market for cars that cost as much as houses, but I would absolutely react that way.

syntaxing 3y ago
Yeah, definitely a different mindset so it’s hard to gauge for me. I’ve sat in fancy cars, probably the most expensive one is a Maserati GT. The engine noise sounds really nice but I would rather have the instant torque acceleration. But I get it, these are like luxury handbags, just owning one is fun.
jacquesm 3y ago
On the second hand market the thing to watch for with manuals is shift misses, especially when downshifting which can easily overrev the engine in horrible ways. You can read this out though so that's definitely something to check for if you ever go shopping for stick shift 911s. On the tiptronic that doesn't really happen.
- ubermonkey 3y ago
  I used to have a 911, but for me the charm kinda diminished when they went water-cooled.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    Reliability and emissions... the remaining 'luftis' are quite high maintenance and for daily drivers probably not the best choice. If I had one I'd not do it justice because I'd be too scared of damaging it in traffic. I like them because they're so spartan though, but for a long trip it might be a bit much.
    - ubermonkey 3y ago
      My 993 was a daily driver for a long time. The maintenance isn't bad at all -- honestly, over the nearly 20 years I had it, it was probably one of the most reliable cars I ever had, and the cost of ownership wasn't bad AT ALL. Pre-993 generations were pretty spartan, that's true, but the 993 was reasonably comfy, had very good climate control, etc. (I mean, I live in Houston. Good AC is required.)

syntaxing 3y ago

Yeah, definitely a different mindset so it’s hard to gauge for me. I’ve sat in fancy cars, probably the most expensive one is a Maserati GT. The engine noise sounds really nice but I would rather have the instant torque acceleration. But I get it, these are like luxury handbags, just owning one is fun.

jacquesm 3y ago

On the second hand market the thing to watch for with manuals is shift misses, especially when downshifting which can easily overrev the engine in horrible ways. You can read this out though so that's definitely something to check for if you ever go shopping for stick shift 911s. On the tiptronic that doesn't really happen.

ubermonkey 3y ago
I used to have a 911, but for me the charm kinda diminished when they went water-cooled.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  Reliability and emissions... the remaining 'luftis' are quite high maintenance and for daily drivers probably not the best choice. If I had one I'd not do it justice because I'd be too scared of damaging it in traffic. I like them because they're so spartan though, but for a long trip it might be a bit much.
  - ubermonkey 3y ago
    My 993 was a daily driver for a long time. The maintenance isn't bad at all -- honestly, over the nearly 20 years I had it, it was probably one of the most reliable cars I ever had, and the cost of ownership wasn't bad AT ALL. Pre-993 generations were pretty spartan, that's true, but the 993 was reasonably comfy, had very good climate control, etc. (I mean, I live in Houston. Good AC is required.)