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I swear Porsche 911 has a cult following. There’s almost always a local “911 club” every place I lived. I get they’re trying to make an ode to the classic but f
by syntaxing 3y ago
I swear Porsche 911 has a cult following. There’s almost always a local “911 club” every place I lived. I get they’re trying to make an ode to the classic but feels like a missed opportunity not to make this a hybrid like the E-ray. That being said, I can’t afford this car so maybe those who can prefer pure ICE but in todays EV world, 575 HP seems meh.
Edit: Interesting that people here think hybrid must mean “PHEV” or a Prius aka parallel hybrid. There are mild hybrids. Just replace the coveted Turbo model with a hybrid model that run in conjunction with the manual engine. You’ll get both the loved manual-ness and EV like pick up.
- dageshi 3y agoI think they're making the final ultimate versions of the ICE cars while they still can.
- wrboyce 3y agoPorsche are heavily invested in synthetic fuels, I don’t think their ICE models are going anywhere soon.
- jacquesm 3y ago575 HP isn't meh, in the EV world or outside of it. You'll probably be limited by your tires. And that kind of acceleration gets old fast. Probably.
- syntaxing 3y agoThere’s very few luxury EVs that have less than 600 HP…If you’re paying for 250K for an EV, you’re looking at 800HP+ on the low end. I agree about how it gets meaningless after a certain point since you need to be on a sticky track to use the full power. I really like how Lucid Gravity is marketed for this, 9.81m/s^2 acceleration.
- hnav 3y agoEVs can have very precise torque control and I think 4 motor EVs are inevitable so stickiness matters less than for an ICE car. The thing is the Lucid Gravity will probably in a recycling heap in 15 years time, while 911s will be wealthy peoples' grandfathered-in ICE road cars for Sunday cruises as long as some form of liquid combustible like ethanol is available.
- ronnier 3y agoMy Tesla S Plaid has 1020 hp and 0-60 in 2 seconds. It never gets old. New plaids start at $92,000.
- syntaxing 3y agoNot sure why you’re getting downvoted because it’s absolutely true, anything less than 600HP for a luxury EV is low.
- Keyframe 3y agoSure, but it's still Tesla and not a Porsche.
- speedgoose 3y agoYeah the base model taycan that is about the same price doesn’t even come with adaptive cruise control.
- Keyframe 3y agoNeither does a Rolex have a built-in calculator.
- speedgoose 3y agoACC is an important security and comfort feature that is of course optional on the Porsche.
- rootusrootus 3y agoThe difference is that a Taycan is Porsche through-and-through, and in addition to being fast in a straight line it does the good things in corners that make you feel fizzy. A plaid goes like stink in a straight line. It has awful brakes and handles like a sled. Very much a one trick pony. Great if that's all you want from a car, but many of us want a more complete package.
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- beached_whale 3y agoprobably :). I do wish where I live there was a track people could use. But going fast/high acceleration on public roads is just dangerous and involves those outside the car that didn't consent to the danger.
- ubermonkey 3y agoI feel like you've missed the point of this car. N.B. that the Turbo -- the parent model -- doesn't offer a manual. I strongly suspect this car started with "what if a Turbo but manual, and geared towards the demographic that wants that option?" A hybrid would, for those people, make this car LESS appealing. I'm not in the market for cars that cost as much as houses, but I would absolutely react that way.
- syntaxing 3y agoYeah, definitely a different mindset so it’s hard to gauge for me. I’ve sat in fancy cars, probably the most expensive one is a Maserati GT. The engine noise sounds really nice but I would rather have the instant torque acceleration. But I get it, these are like luxury handbags, just owning one is fun.
- jacquesm 3y agoOn the second hand market the thing to watch for with manuals is shift misses, especially when downshifting which can easily overrev the engine in horrible ways. You can read this out though so that's definitely something to check for if you ever go shopping for stick shift 911s. On the tiptronic that doesn't really happen.
- ubermonkey 3y agoI used to have a 911, but for me the charm kinda diminished when they went water-cooled.
- jacquesm 3y agoReliability and emissions... the remaining 'luftis' are quite high maintenance and for daily drivers probably not the best choice. If I had one I'd not do it justice because I'd be too scared of damaging it in traffic. I like them because they're so spartan though, but for a long trip it might be a bit much.
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- grvdrm 3y agoI don’t own a 911 but suggest that driving one makes you get it doesn’t need to be a hybrid to be near perfect.
- listenallyall 3y ago> a local “911 club” every place I lived Not an accident, the PCA (Porsche Club of America) is the first and largest auto owners/enthusiasts club. They have regions and local clubs all over the country and world. They are really nice people, happy to show you their beautiful cars or maybe even give you a ride!
- syntaxing 3y agoThe only reason I know about them is my coworkers are in them (coworkers from different jobs too). They tend to be white beards (is this still a PC term?) and they’re all super nice. They get all giddy when they can talk about their 911s. One of my jobs, we had our own landing strip, so they would race all their cars (Audi, corvette, BMW, and Porsche). I honestly thought the BMW i8 would win but he never custom tuned it and it was soft capped at 140 mph.