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Scientist don't think they are right or wrong they work with the data they have and add new data when it comes available otherwise they are not scientists. Hone

Scientist don't think they are right or wrong they work with the data they have and add new data when it comes available otherwise they are not scientists. Honestly, insane that I have to say it on HN.

gwervc 3y ago
What is your scientific background? Your comment seems naive and disconnected to what is happening in research labs.
- Zetobal 3y ago
  Not every country fucked up their scientific community like the US did with their main focus on grants and star power but even with their educational system kneecapped by capital the US is still a scientific power house because of the thousands of people that do honest work and get ignored by biased and self-righteous comments like yours. If you have any insights lay it down on me...
the-mitr 3y ago
That is a normative and outdated view of science proposed by logical positivists, it tells you how science is ought to be not how it is. A cursory look at history of science will tell you this is not so. Scientists bring their own biases and opinions and colour the data as they seem fit. Other major point is data is not value neutral it is theory laden.
- 7952 3y ago
  Sure, but what is the alternative?
  - the-mitr 3y ago
    That science is a process of getting towards tentative truth via observations. That there is no single method of science, but there are several pathways by which scientific knowledge can be obtained. You can read Thomas Kuhn (structure of scientific revolutions), Imre Lakatos (Proofs and Refutations) for this perspective. Kuhn brought in the historical perspective which was missing earlier to study of philosophy of science. Also, you can look at books by Stephen Toulmin and June Goodfield which detail a historical perspetive of development of scientific ideas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_Revolutions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_Re... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proofs_and_Refutations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proofs_and_Refutations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Toulmin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Toulmin

gwervc 3y ago

What is your scientific background? Your comment seems naive and disconnected to what is happening in research labs.

Zetobal 3y ago
Not every country fucked up their scientific community like the US did with their main focus on grants and star power but even with their educational system kneecapped by capital the US is still a scientific power house because of the thousands of people that do honest work and get ignored by biased and self-righteous comments like yours. If you have any insights lay it down on me...

the-mitr 3y ago

That is a normative and outdated view of science proposed by logical positivists, it tells you how science is ought to be not how it is. A cursory look at history of science will tell you this is not so. Scientists bring their own biases and opinions and colour the data as they seem fit. Other major point is data is not value neutral it is theory laden.

7952 3y ago
Sure, but what is the alternative?
- the-mitr 3y ago
  That science is a process of getting towards tentative truth via observations. That there is no single method of science, but there are several pathways by which scientific knowledge can be obtained. You can read Thomas Kuhn (structure of scientific revolutions), Imre Lakatos (Proofs and Refutations) for this perspective. Kuhn brought in the historical perspective which was missing earlier to study of philosophy of science. Also, you can look at books by Stephen Toulmin and June Goodfield which detail a historical perspetive of development of scientific ideas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_Revolutions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_Re... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proofs_and_Refutations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proofs_and_Refutations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Toulmin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Toulmin