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This is contradicted by AI art winning competitions for traditional art. People could not tell it is AI art, they felt what they felt. Only later must they conv

This is contradicted by AI art winning competitions for traditional art. People could not tell it is AI art, they felt what they felt. Only later must they convince themselves that it could not have been that good after all, because a machine made it.

__loam 3y ago
That was one contest at the very beginning of the gen ai craze and even that was highly controversial. It's pretty bad form to pollute spaces meant for human output with ai bullshit. Clarke's World had to shut down submissions for a while because of the tide of auto-generated bullshit. I feel like people like you who think things like "what's the problem?" don't actually understand what the effect of this technology has been on these creative communities. We still want to hone these skills and produce good work. Flooding online spaces with that stuff makes it harder to curate the signal to noise. Sharing art and getting feedback is how humans improve, and the glut of hacks who now think they're an artist is harming these communities. It's not necessarily about the final product, but the effect of the technology on these communities. AI companies steal the labor then people who were never part of the community come in and flood the space with low effort work. Then people like you dismiss it as gatekeeping. It's a super frustrating conversation to have.
- skepticATX 3y ago
  This is an unpopular opinion now, and one that I completely agree with. I have always been very bad at all things art, which I think has only increased my appreciation for all of the incredibly talented artists in the world. I often feel sad for those losing their livelihood and passion.
  - __loam 3y ago
    I'm a professional programmer but I've been learning art as a hobby for the past year. Fuck anyone who belittles artists. This shit is hard.
- incrudible 3y ago
  I can see the problems with it, just like I can see problems with other forms of automation. The point I am making though is that your presupposition is wrong. You are falling for some type of labor-theory-of-value fallacy. AI art can inspire awe, a primal sensation, desite the fact that no human toiled away on it. Of course that can be disheartening to some artists, but that does not make it any less true.
  - satvikpendem 3y ago
    This is readily true when an AI art piece won a contest earlier this year. Clearly the judges liked it enough to award it so.

__loam 3y ago

That was one contest at the very beginning of the gen ai craze and even that was highly controversial. It's pretty bad form to pollute spaces meant for human output with ai bullshit. Clarke's World had to shut down submissions for a while because of the tide of auto-generated bullshit. I feel like people like you who think things like "what's the problem?" don't actually understand what the effect of this technology has been on these creative communities. We still want to hone these skills and produce good work. Flooding online spaces with that stuff makes it harder to curate the signal to noise. Sharing art and getting feedback is how humans improve, and the glut of hacks who now think they're an artist is harming these communities. It's not necessarily about the final product, but the effect of the technology on these communities. AI companies steal the labor then people who were never part of the community come in and flood the space with low effort work. Then people like you dismiss it as gatekeeping. It's a super frustrating conversation to have.

skepticATX 3y ago
This is an unpopular opinion now, and one that I completely agree with. I have always been very bad at all things art, which I think has only increased my appreciation for all of the incredibly talented artists in the world. I often feel sad for those losing their livelihood and passion.
- __loam 3y ago
  I'm a professional programmer but I've been learning art as a hobby for the past year. Fuck anyone who belittles artists. This shit is hard.
incrudible 3y ago
I can see the problems with it, just like I can see problems with other forms of automation. The point I am making though is that your presupposition is wrong. You are falling for some type of labor-theory-of-value fallacy. AI art can inspire awe, a primal sensation, desite the fact that no human toiled away on it. Of course that can be disheartening to some artists, but that does not make it any less true.
- satvikpendem 3y ago
  This is readily true when an AI art piece won a contest earlier this year. Clearly the judges liked it enough to award it so.