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It depends on your definition of 'solid state' hard drives store bits magnetically , ssd's store bits electrically. You could call both solid state if the SSD

It depends on your definition of 'solid state' hard drives store bits magnetically , ssd's store bits electrically. You could call both solid state if the SSD wasn't specifically named due to its close relation to dram and cache lines that need active power. I would also consider hard drives more solid than ssd's if you tested for how long each could resist entrophy if there was no source of low entrophy.

velcrovan 3y ago
uh...no, “solid state” doesn’t have competing popular definitions. Solid state means the state can be read or written without moving parts or gaseous components. SSDs have this property, hard drives clearly do not.
- parineum 3y ago
  > Solid state means the state can be read or written without moving parts Ahh so the data on this cooler can be read without moving parts, interesting. OP was talking about the definition of solid state in a broader sense. In that broader definition (useful outside of computer hardware) "solid state" could refer to the parts that don't require constant power to maintain state. OP was demonstrating how the term could be reasonably used to mean different things in different ways meaning that "solid state" is not a very useful term in it's own, it needs context to be meaningful.
  - lupusreal 3y ago
    If it's got a motor spinning something as an essential part of its operation, it's not solid state in any conceivable sense.
  - velcrovan 3y ago
    > Ahh so the data on this cooler can be read without moving parts, interesting. I never said data, I said state. If you're getting hung up where I said “written” just think “changed” instead. > In that broader definition (useful outside of computer hardware) "solid state" could refer to the parts that don't require constant power to maintain state. This particular “broader definition” is not used in any domain, nor is it at all useful. Nor was OP talking about any domain outside of computer hardware. They were talking specifically about hard drives and SSDs. > OP was demonstrating how the term could be reasonably used to mean different things in different ways meaning that "solid state" is not a very useful term in it's own, it needs context to be meaningful. They were demonstrating that if you make up definitions arbitrarily then nothing means anything. Regardless, “solid state” is a well-understood term with a specific widely understood meaning in the domain we’re all obviously discussing.
  - svnt 3y ago
    > “solid state” could refer to parts that don’t require constant power to maintain state there is already a perfect term for that: nonvolatile non·vol·a·tile [nänˈvälədl] ADJECTIVE not volatile. computing (of a computer's memory) retaining data even if there is a break in the power supply

velcrovan 3y ago

uh...no, “solid state” doesn’t have competing popular definitions. Solid state means the state can be read or written without moving parts or gaseous components. SSDs have this property, hard drives clearly do not.

parineum 3y ago
> Solid state means the state can be read or written without moving parts Ahh so the data on this cooler can be read without moving parts, interesting. OP was talking about the definition of solid state in a broader sense. In that broader definition (useful outside of computer hardware) "solid state" could refer to the parts that don't require constant power to maintain state. OP was demonstrating how the term could be reasonably used to mean different things in different ways meaning that "solid state" is not a very useful term in it's own, it needs context to be meaningful.
- lupusreal 3y ago
  If it's got a motor spinning something as an essential part of its operation, it's not solid state in any conceivable sense.
- velcrovan 3y ago
  > Ahh so the data on this cooler can be read without moving parts, interesting. I never said data, I said state. If you're getting hung up where I said “written” just think “changed” instead. > In that broader definition (useful outside of computer hardware) "solid state" could refer to the parts that don't require constant power to maintain state. This particular “broader definition” is not used in any domain, nor is it at all useful. Nor was OP talking about any domain outside of computer hardware. They were talking specifically about hard drives and SSDs. > OP was demonstrating how the term could be reasonably used to mean different things in different ways meaning that "solid state" is not a very useful term in it's own, it needs context to be meaningful. They were demonstrating that if you make up definitions arbitrarily then nothing means anything. Regardless, “solid state” is a well-understood term with a specific widely understood meaning in the domain we’re all obviously discussing.
- svnt 3y ago
  > “solid state” could refer to parts that don’t require constant power to maintain state there is already a perfect term for that: nonvolatile non·vol·a·tile [nänˈvälədl] ADJECTIVE not volatile. computing (of a computer's memory) retaining data even if there is a break in the power supply