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Chrome really has become the new IE. That's sad.

by mrtksn 3y ago

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
It's even worse than IE was in it's day. At least IE back then was just a monopoly and not also a giant spy machine for an ad empire.
- Longhanks 3y ago
  No, it's objectively not worse, you can compile Chromium yourself and remove any features you don't want, something you were never able to do with IE.
  - mrtksn 3y ago
    I don't think not having enough versions of IE was ever a problem. The problem starts when everyone builds their app to a platform that is very dominant and controlled by people who's interest are not always aligned with the user's interests. You don't have to compile Chromium to have a browser incompatible with the websites that people build for Chrome, you can just use Firefox or Safari or write your own browser if you want to have a web browser that won't be able to run Microsoft Teams.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    Chrome != Chromium. The vast majority of the planet is using Chrome, not Chromium. Most average joes have no idea about Chromium. Either way, whether you're using Chromium or Chrome, you're still entrenching Google's monopoly over the web. Like the sibling said, the problem was IE's monopoly itself not the lack of more IE-based variants which wouldn't have helped at all, the same way how Chromium isn't helping counter Google's monopoly.
Dah00n 3y ago
IE held back the development of the WWW. That would be the spot Safari has today. What Chrome is doing is much worse, since it is strangling the web, not just holding back new features.
- mrtksn 3y ago
  Not true at all, IE what is the most innovative browser until it wasn’t. For example They invented Ajax, One of the core technologies that made the web what it is today.
  - zlg_codes 3y ago
    They invented ActiveX object and the accompanying XmlHttpRequest that AJAX would later morph into, and then change the X part (XML) to JSON. While it was innovative, I would argue it's made the Web worse, given the impact of Javascript and surveillance on the Web.

Chrome really has become the new IE. That's sad.

by mrtksn 3y ago

Chrome really has become the new IE. That's sad.

It's even worse than IE was in it's day. At least IE back then was just a monopoly and not also a giant spy machine for an ad empire.

Longhanks 3y ago
No, it's objectively not worse, you can compile Chromium yourself and remove any features you don't want, something you were never able to do with IE.
- mrtksn 3y ago
  I don't think not having enough versions of IE was ever a problem. The problem starts when everyone builds their app to a platform that is very dominant and controlled by people who's interest are not always aligned with the user's interests. You don't have to compile Chromium to have a browser incompatible with the websites that people build for Chrome, you can just use Firefox or Safari or write your own browser if you want to have a web browser that won't be able to run Microsoft Teams.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  Chrome != Chromium. The vast majority of the planet is using Chrome, not Chromium. Most average joes have no idea about Chromium. Either way, whether you're using Chromium or Chrome, you're still entrenching Google's monopoly over the web. Like the sibling said, the problem was IE's monopoly itself not the lack of more IE-based variants which wouldn't have helped at all, the same way how Chromium isn't helping counter Google's monopoly.

Dah00n 3y ago

IE held back the development of the WWW. That would be the spot Safari has today. What Chrome is doing is much worse, since it is strangling the web, not just holding back new features.

mrtksn 3y ago
Not true at all, IE what is the most innovative browser until it wasn’t. For example They invented Ajax, One of the core technologies that made the web what it is today.
- zlg_codes 3y ago
  They invented ActiveX object and the accompanying XmlHttpRequest that AJAX would later morph into, and then change the X part (XML) to JSON. While it was innovative, I would argue it's made the Web worse, given the impact of Javascript and surveillance on the Web.