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I'd be extremely glad for that, fucking tired of all the political games to keep churning projects a PM wanted for their promotion package, regardless how actua

by piva00 3y ago

I'd be extremely glad for that, fucking tired of all the political games to keep churning projects a PM wanted for their promotion package, regardless how actually useful it was 2-5 years down the line, usually abandoning the team right after they jump up in their career... I haven't had a PM for longer than a year or so in a long time. Getting pretty exhausted by the endless cycles of: 1. new PM 2. weeks and weeks of product workshops to define vision/mission/goals 3. teaching the PM how the product works, who are the customers, why it works this way, all the weird business logic cruft 4. PM has a passing knowledge of the product 5. PM decides on a new questionable flashy project after 3-6 months 6. PM gets promotion (or a burnout) Rinse and repeat.

pmontra 3y ago
That's a PM looking for a promotion and I'm afraid that it can't be helped. It's not the only way, somebody they get promoted without doing anything, only backstabbing other people. In a sane environment there should be user problems to solve, real problems and not invented ones, and teams that solve those problems. The PM of a team delivering the best solutions should have an advantage when looking for a promotion, that's fair. Unfortunately that means that they had a brilliant PM and they'll turn it into a maybe mediocre manager one level up and there is no way to climb down the ladder in the same company. Peter's Principle.