Same! I had braces as a kid and something always seemed off intuitively about how they "fixed" my teeth. Also got TMJ, recessed chin, and i've never felt my b

Same! I had braces as a kid and something always seemed off intuitively about how they "fixed" my teeth. Also got TMJ, recessed chin, and i've never felt my breathing has been very good afterwards, like my whole face became too narrow after removing 4 molars making me just a bit less attractive. And after deep diving orthodontics i'm pretty fucking mad. It seems there are way better methods that keep both aesthetics and a more natural breathing - ie. a little palate expansion to make space for your teeth instead of removing teeth and having braces for years. It's even quicker, like what the actual! I still have retainers on, and i'm considering having them removed and having rapid palate expansion done as others in this thread recommends. As they also point out, i also have a hard time breathing correctly during sports, and have been worrying over sleep apnea.