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Using a browser made by an ad company. Just don’t. Other browsers are fine and in fact Chrome is becoming increasingly user hostile anyway.
by zwaps 3y ago
Using a browser made by an ad company. Just don’t. Other browsers are fine and in fact Chrome is becoming increasingly user hostile anyway.
- mbork_pl 3y agoWhat "other browsers"? I know there's Firefox (it's my main browser, in fact), but where is the rest? Edge is Chrome, Safari is only available for iThings, so it's not like there's a big selection...
- unnouinceput 3y agoI suggest watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5r6jFE8gic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5r6jFE8gic
- mbork_pl 3y agoLooks interesting, but it's almost 40 minutes of video. Can I read that somewhere?
- raybb 3y agoHere's a kagi summary The video ranks different web browsers on a tier list from spyware tier to base tier based on privacy, usability, and other factors. Brave is placed in excellent tier for its good default privacy settings and built-in ad blocking, though some dislike its use of cryptocurrency. Firefox is only decent tier due to its many annoying default features, but can be excellent with the right privacy-focused user.js file. Icecat is decent tier for free software purists due to its use of LibreJS blocking non-free scripts, though this breaks many sites. Librewolf is excellent tier as an easy to use private version of Firefox without much configuration needed. Chromium-based browsers like Vivaldi can be good but have limitations from not being fully open source. Closed source browsers like Chrome, Edge and Opera are automatically placed in spyware tier due to privacy concerns. Qutebrowser is decent tier for power users due to its keyboard-focused design but has issues with advanced ad blocking. Waterfox is excellent tier as a lightweight Firefox fork, though its ownership by an ad company concerns some. Overall, Brave, Librewolf and hardened Firefox are recommended as having the best balance of privacy, usability and customizability.
- i5-2520M 3y agoIs the standpoint "everything is spyware until proven otherwise"? I really dislike how commonly spyware is used, it really dilutes the word's meaning.
- doublerabbit 3y ago> but where is the rest? There won't be any anytime soon. As per HN folk, whenever this discussion comes up there's always an massive angst outcry of "its impossible to create a new browser".
- narag 3y agoThe Serenity OS guy is making one: https://ladybird.dev/ https://ladybird.dev/
- mbork_pl 3y agoAnd he's been applauded a few times on HN, too.
- doublerabbit 3y agoBut if anyone else tries to mentions some of the sort it becomes a slag off fest. Example here: https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=38394995 https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=38394995
- narag 3y agoSo more wood: https://nyxt.atlas.engineer/ https://nyxt.atlas.engineer/
- KingLancelot 3y ago[dead]
- ultrarunner 3y agoBrave is chromium and seems okay. There's some Web3 nonsense, but it's unobtrusive.
- creesch 3y agoBrave is an ad company with weird crypto stuff sprinkled in. Not to mention that their past actions have shown that privacy to them is a marketing thing, not something that is at the core of how they operate. There have been a few too many new things they introduced that run counter to a user centric privacy minded approach where they only did backpedal after enough negative publicity.
- ultrarunner 3y agoI generally agree. It's not a great situation. As a browser to use when something's broken in Safari, it works, and to my knowledge doesn't send history directly to Google.
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- vbezhenar 3y agoFirefox is basically funded by the same ad company.
- loloquwowndueo 3y agoYes but “takes money from” is fundamentally different from “shares the ideology of”. Do you think Google agrees with everything their advertising customers promote there and on YouTube?