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There is a baseline assumption that this is motivated by ads. I really don't think Google is coordinated enough for ads to exert pressure between orgs in that w

There is a baseline assumption that this is motivated by ads. I really don't think Google is coordinated enough for ads to exert pressure between orgs in that way. People in chrome really are just optimizing for security and safety.

zwaps 3y ago
Hard disagree, this is a play from the top
- heliodor 3y ago
  What do you base this belief on?
  - Mars294 3y ago
    How is their anti-Adblock fight on YouTube not a clear sign?
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theduder99 3y ago
because google is an ads company
- daveswilson 3y ago
  And if you've ever worked for 'em, even in a department related to neither Chrome nor Ads, you'll soon know the influence of the Ads team. Prestige, high-pressure jobs, top people, and influence everywhere.
ath3nd 3y ago
I am not sure if this is not a sarcastic take, but I will bite. Google are generally not coordinated well on anything, but this current war on adblockers is a notable exception. Consider the following 3 things all happening in the same time frame: 1. Youtube's rollout of detecting adblockers and updating their code a couple times a day to prevent you from running an adblocker 2. The manifest v3 standard 3. The Privacy Sandbox trash They are using the dominant position of Youtube as video content platform (point 1), chrome/chromium (point 2) as a browser engine and their current dominant position in the ads market (point 3) to achieve a couple of goals. With the privacy sandbox, they force ads to go through their ecosystem, with the manifest v3 they deliver a big kick to the adblockers, and with Toutube, they are using one of their most successful platforms to further push their ads agenda. To me, unskippable ads are going to: - make me hate the brand that's wasting my time by advertising crap I don't need and making me watch it - make me hate the platform on which this ad is played, especially knowing the platform jumped through specific hoops to make the ads unskippable for even the power users
nervlord 3y ago
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zwaps 3y ago

Hard disagree, this is a play from the top

heliodor 3y ago
What do you base this belief on?
- Mars294 3y ago
  How is their anti-Adblock fight on YouTube not a clear sign?

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theduder99 3y ago

because google is an ads company

daveswilson 3y ago
And if you've ever worked for 'em, even in a department related to neither Chrome nor Ads, you'll soon know the influence of the Ads team. Prestige, high-pressure jobs, top people, and influence everywhere.

ath3nd 3y ago

I am not sure if this is not a sarcastic take, but I will bite. Google are generally not coordinated well on anything, but this current war on adblockers is a notable exception. Consider the following 3 things all happening in the same time frame: 1. Youtube's rollout of detecting adblockers and updating their code a couple times a day to prevent you from running an adblocker 2. The manifest v3 standard 3. The Privacy Sandbox trash They are using the dominant position of Youtube as video content platform (point 1), chrome/chromium (point 2) as a browser engine and their current dominant position in the ads market (point 3) to achieve a couple of goals. With the privacy sandbox, they force ads to go through their ecosystem, with the manifest v3 they deliver a big kick to the adblockers, and with Toutube, they are using one of their most successful platforms to further push their ads agenda. To me, unskippable ads are going to: - make me hate the brand that's wasting my time by advertising crap I don't need and making me watch it - make me hate the platform on which this ad is played, especially knowing the platform jumped through specific hoops to make the ads unskippable for even the power users

nervlord 3y ago

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