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Sadly I've tried GPL3 for Hyperlearn and AGPL3 - those licenses only work for UI or Database based OSS - eg MongoDB, Gitlab etc. I still haven't figured out ho

Sadly I've tried GPL3 for Hyperlearn and AGPL3 - those licenses only work for UI or Database based OSS - eg MongoDB, Gitlab etc. I still haven't figured out how to open source algorithms which don't have an UI or database - maybe a training or inference platform? But if we made a training / inference platform, then there won't be any OSS code. We're currently stuck in the middle - do you have any suggestions on this?

Jayakumark 3y ago
Sell binaries without code for individuals/enterprises who can train on private data , Get some GPUs and sell training platforms similar to together.ai for enterprises with data privacy guarantee. just make it super simple , give a google like sheet to fill or dump a folder with text files and you can use ml to make it in structured format. User gives Input - > excel, txt etc Select model base -> mystal, llama2 output --> fine trained model. Give a fixed cost based on data you got .. say it will take $50 to train on this ? for 25 hours of GPU with your markup. User Pays the bill and get PEFT llama model out. The big problem i see in Finetuning for GPU Poor is no one gives an estimate on how much it will cost for your data on a given model. have a calculator for x words or Bytes and y epochs, here is the cost we are estimating.. Once you make your $x million in terms of 50x your pay for the time you invested, you can open source it, but we are greedy when it comes to money.. so opensource model at your will. In the mean time hope no one catches your technique.
- danielhanchen 3y ago
  Ye a training platform! Ye for hobbyists - it's hard to price. But I agree some sort of platform for training could in theory work
Zuiii 3y ago
> I still haven't figured out how to open source algorithms You're not supposed to be able to restrict algorithms (i.e. math), and copyright (e.g. open source licenses) is definitely not the right tool. If you want to do it anyway, You'll have better chances by abusing the patent system.
- danielhanchen 3y ago
  Hmmm patents - doesn't that also showcase everything in the open though?
  - Zuiii 3y ago
    Yes, but that's the only way I know of to legally stop others from making money off "ideas". Copyright isn't a good tool for this as oracle recently found out.
    - danielhanchen 3y ago
      Good point! I'll have a chat with my bro - but thanks for your suggestions - highly appreciate it!

Jayakumark 3y ago

Sell binaries without code for individuals/enterprises who can train on private data , Get some GPUs and sell training platforms similar to together.ai for enterprises with data privacy guarantee. just make it super simple , give a google like sheet to fill or dump a folder with text files and you can use ml to make it in structured format. User gives Input - > excel, txt etc Select model base -> mystal, llama2 output --> fine trained model. Give a fixed cost based on data you got .. say it will take $50 to train on this ? for 25 hours of GPU with your markup. User Pays the bill and get PEFT llama model out. The big problem i see in Finetuning for GPU Poor is no one gives an estimate on how much it will cost for your data on a given model. have a calculator for x words or Bytes and y epochs, here is the cost we are estimating.. Once you make your $x million in terms of 50x your pay for the time you invested, you can open source it, but we are greedy when it comes to money.. so opensource model at your will. In the mean time hope no one catches your technique.

danielhanchen 3y ago
Ye a training platform! Ye for hobbyists - it's hard to price. But I agree some sort of platform for training could in theory work

Zuiii 3y ago

> I still haven't figured out how to open source algorithms You're not supposed to be able to restrict algorithms (i.e. math), and copyright (e.g. open source licenses) is definitely not the right tool. If you want to do it anyway, You'll have better chances by abusing the patent system.

danielhanchen 3y ago
Hmmm patents - doesn't that also showcase everything in the open though?
- Zuiii 3y ago
  Yes, but that's the only way I know of to legally stop others from making money off "ideas". Copyright isn't a good tool for this as oracle recently found out.
  - danielhanchen 3y ago
    Good point! I'll have a chat with my bro - but thanks for your suggestions - highly appreciate it!