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What does 'pursue' mean here? Everybody can write an angry letter to 'anyone, anywhere'. Can Carter-Ruck actually force 'anyone, anywhere' to cease & desist /

by yreg 3y ago

What does 'pursue' mean here? Everybody can write an angry letter to 'anyone, anywhere'. Can Carter-Ruck actually force 'anyone, anywhere' to cease & desist / defend themselves at court? What stops a resident of say Hong Kong or Russia or Paraguay from totally ignoring said angry letter?

boznz 3y ago
Not a lawyer and happy to be corrected but my wild ass guess says that unless you are breaking a law of your country they cannot do anything.
- Laaas 3y ago
  It would mean you can't go to the UK I imagine.
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- porknubbins 3y ago
  Its a little bit more complicated since we aren’t talking about a criminal offense so its not you vs your country. Its more like does the person who you allegedly libeled have standing to sue you in a court which has jurisdiction over you/your assets. If that person legitimately has some presence in your country they might.
gerdesj 3y ago
This lot are Carter Fuck (the Private Eye approved name for C-R). They know rather a lot about the laws in most jurisdictions and obviously ours (UK, well actually England and Wales). There is nothing that stops, say a Russian from ignoring an English Law firm but they might find a local "issue" turns up from a local law firm, prompted from over here. It will be meticulously researched and couched in local legal terms. You might like to note that recently a judge in the Russian Federation has declared that a group called "international LGBT public movement" is now outlawed. That group does not really exist per se but it is now a label that can be applied to someone. There are penalties in law from being associated with that group/moniker. I imagine that any responsible person can assert that someone is a member of that (fictional) group and expect justice to be done. Do I really have to spell out how this goes down? Russia at least declares their "issues". Some other jurisdictions don't bother with those ... niceties.
thsksbd 3y ago
1. You and your assets can't go to the UK. This might not seem like a biggie to some until you consider that all your flights across the Atlantic cant have a stop in the UK. Also, UK financial institutions, while not the US', have quite a bit of reach. 2. They can pursue you or your assets in other countries. Now, a judge in Italy is unlikely to care what UK courts have to say about an American (since Italy is loath to offend the US) but what if you're merely a Chad citizen (unfortunately, a nobody) in Poland (a massive Anglo ally)?

by yreg 3y ago

boznz 3y ago

Not a lawyer and happy to be corrected but my wild ass guess says that unless you are breaking a law of your country they cannot do anything.

Laaas 3y ago
It would mean you can't go to the UK I imagine.
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porknubbins 3y ago
Its a little bit more complicated since we aren’t talking about a criminal offense so its not you vs your country. Its more like does the person who you allegedly libeled have standing to sue you in a court which has jurisdiction over you/your assets. If that person legitimately has some presence in your country they might.

gerdesj 3y ago

This lot are Carter Fuck (the Private Eye approved name for C-R). They know rather a lot about the laws in most jurisdictions and obviously ours (UK, well actually England and Wales). There is nothing that stops, say a Russian from ignoring an English Law firm but they might find a local "issue" turns up from a local law firm, prompted from over here. It will be meticulously researched and couched in local legal terms. You might like to note that recently a judge in the Russian Federation has declared that a group called "international LGBT public movement" is now outlawed. That group does not really exist per se but it is now a label that can be applied to someone. There are penalties in law from being associated with that group/moniker. I imagine that any responsible person can assert that someone is a member of that (fictional) group and expect justice to be done. Do I really have to spell out how this goes down? Russia at least declares their "issues". Some other jurisdictions don't bother with those ... niceties.

thsksbd 3y ago

1. You and your assets can't go to the UK. This might not seem like a biggie to some until you consider that all your flights across the Atlantic cant have a stop in the UK. Also, UK financial institutions, while not the US', have quite a bit of reach. 2. They can pursue you or your assets in other countries. Now, a judge in Italy is unlikely to care what UK courts have to say about an American (since Italy is loath to offend the US) but what if you're merely a Chad citizen (unfortunately, a nobody) in Poland (a massive Anglo ally)?