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I’d have expected a range extender to be a gas or diesel generator, a bit like the bmw i3, but removable

hnburnsy 3y ago
> I’d have expected a range extender to be a gas or diesel generator, a bit like the bmw i3, but removable Run don't walk to the patent office with that idea! If Rivian can patentent the idea of an extra battery, your invention seems much more inventive!
talldatethrow 3y ago
A 5kw generator is about as much as an adult can lift into a pickup truck alone. Connect it to a charge port that allows charging while moving, and you can extend range by.... If it takes you 4 hours to drive 300 miles, in that time you would have added about 60 miles. (4 hours x 5kw x 3miles per kwh)
- mlyle 3y ago
  I'm not sure this battery pack is something you could lift into the vehicle alone, either-- estimates are it's 500 pounds) So 15kW + some fuel might be possible in less heft, which could get you 2.5x the range.
extraduder_ire 3y ago
I'm still waiting for EVs that allow arbitrary charging while operating to allow things like this. Or some sort of PTO (power-take-on/off) system for rapid charging. Currently, one of the fastest ways to charge many EVs is to tow it while using its regenerative brakes. Added generators wouldn't even need to be that good to completely obliterate FUD about limited range.
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- rootusrootus 3y ago
  > Currently, one of the fastest ways to charge many EVs is to tow it while using its regenerative brakes. I'd be interested to know which EVs this applies to. Leaf, Bolt maybe? Regen on the Bolt is just barely over the DC fast charge rate, and the Bolt is on the low end. For something like a Tesla or any other equivalently modern EV it won't even be close.
  - Kirby64 3y ago
    Tesla's can charge at 75kW from regen braking... not nearly as fast as supercharging, but pretty fast I'd say.
instagib 3y ago
I remember reading one of the patents ford submitted in 2018 resembling a toolbox. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34277725/ford-f-150-range-extender-ev-pickup-patent/ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34277725/ford-f-150-range...
iancmceachern 3y ago
Ford has a patent on this concept
dendrite9 3y ago
Oddly it looks like the Dodge ramcharger is going to be an interesting version of that but the generator is not removable.

> I’d have expected a range extender to be a gas or diesel generator, a bit like the bmw i3, but removable Run don't walk to the patent office with that idea! If Rivian can patentent the idea of an extra battery, your invention seems much more inventive!

talldatethrow 3y ago

A 5kw generator is about as much as an adult can lift into a pickup truck alone. Connect it to a charge port that allows charging while moving, and you can extend range by.... If it takes you 4 hours to drive 300 miles, in that time you would have added about 60 miles. (4 hours x 5kw x 3miles per kwh)

mlyle 3y ago
I'm not sure this battery pack is something you could lift into the vehicle alone, either-- estimates are it's 500 pounds) So 15kW + some fuel might be possible in less heft, which could get you 2.5x the range.

extraduder_ire 3y ago

I'm still waiting for EVs that allow arbitrary charging while operating to allow things like this. Or some sort of PTO (power-take-on/off) system for rapid charging. Currently, one of the fastest ways to charge many EVs is to tow it while using its regenerative brakes. Added generators wouldn't even need to be that good to completely obliterate FUD about limited range.

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rootusrootus 3y ago
> Currently, one of the fastest ways to charge many EVs is to tow it while using its regenerative brakes. I'd be interested to know which EVs this applies to. Leaf, Bolt maybe? Regen on the Bolt is just barely over the DC fast charge rate, and the Bolt is on the low end. For something like a Tesla or any other equivalently modern EV it won't even be close.
- Kirby64 3y ago
  Tesla's can charge at 75kW from regen braking... not nearly as fast as supercharging, but pretty fast I'd say.

instagib 3y ago

I remember reading one of the patents ford submitted in 2018 resembling a toolbox. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34277725/ford-f-150-range-extender-ev-pickup-patent/ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34277725/ford-f-150-range...

iancmceachern 3y ago

Ford has a patent on this concept

dendrite9 3y ago

Oddly it looks like the Dodge ramcharger is going to be an interesting version of that but the generator is not removable.