I'm genuinely sick of seeing todo apps being implemented, and in this case, compared, in various languages. It's simply not a complex enough app (ie: no authent

I'm genuinely sick of seeing todo apps being implemented, and in this case, compared, in various languages. It's simply not a complex enough app (ie: no authentication/login system) and serves only to give the highest level of an overview about a framework. Actually getting down into the nitty gritty side of things (which includes everything from authentication, validation, and templating, to routing, persistence (both sql and no-sql), and XHR/we sockets) is crucial, in my eyes, for us to really see how a system can grow from an intro-to-framework-X into the next-big-thing. Obviously, there's a requirement to actually learn the language/framework that you end up choosing, and therefore there's no real benefit to having a copy/paste sample app that includes the kitchen sink, but damn, I'm sick of recreating the wheel.