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The problem is that politics very rapidly drives its way into the conversation, and discussions about mental health, what is healthy for society, etc get pushed

The problem is that politics very rapidly drives its way into the conversation, and discussions about mental health, what is healthy for society, etc get pushed aside. This model fundamentally changes the structure of human society, and the trend will likely accelerate, not decelerate, over the coming years. And yet the conversation usually immediately gets divided into the feminist camps and the conservative Christian/Muslim camps. I also think the trendiness of the phenomenon makes it seem more widespread than it is, however I've noticed a scary trend in the younger generation of general unsuitability to healthy relationships, and I just recently learned that a friend has an OnlyFans, so the phenomenon is becoming more widespread.

sidlls 3y ago
I'm dating a younger male right now, and "general unsuitability to healthy relationships" really rings true to an extent. His friends are more or less constantly bragging about how they "link up" with their friend's partners (without the friend knowing/consenting), lead people on, and so on. It's obviously not all younger people. I think that the rise of social media has affected this area of human interaction more than other areas, perhaps. The concepts of boundaries and respect are shifting. I think what is considered a "healthy relationship" is likely undergoing a significant shift. Maybe in a generation or two the "healthy relationships" will all be polyamorous ones, and monogamy will be considered the strange/unhealthy kind.
- efields 3y ago
  I think it’s highly possible, even likely. But as a society it will be a struggle to adapt to these sorts of fundamental shift of assumptions of how things are “supposed to be.”
meheleventyone 3y ago
Isn’t the substance of politics exactly those discussions though? The reason there are camps is that there is a set of shared views on some issues. Whether along religious lines or otherwise.
PaulHoule 3y ago
It doesn't necessarily split between feminists and conservatives, it is just as likely that feminists split. In particular https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Dworkin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Dworkin was opposed to pornography in a way that resonated with conservatives.

sidlls 3y ago

I'm dating a younger male right now, and "general unsuitability to healthy relationships" really rings true to an extent. His friends are more or less constantly bragging about how they "link up" with their friend's partners (without the friend knowing/consenting), lead people on, and so on. It's obviously not all younger people. I think that the rise of social media has affected this area of human interaction more than other areas, perhaps. The concepts of boundaries and respect are shifting. I think what is considered a "healthy relationship" is likely undergoing a significant shift. Maybe in a generation or two the "healthy relationships" will all be polyamorous ones, and monogamy will be considered the strange/unhealthy kind.

efields 3y ago
I think it’s highly possible, even likely. But as a society it will be a struggle to adapt to these sorts of fundamental shift of assumptions of how things are “supposed to be.”

meheleventyone 3y ago

Isn’t the substance of politics exactly those discussions though? The reason there are camps is that there is a set of shared views on some issues. Whether along religious lines or otherwise.

PaulHoule 3y ago

It doesn't necessarily split between feminists and conservatives, it is just as likely that feminists split. In particular https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Dworkin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Dworkin was opposed to pornography in a way that resonated with conservatives.