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> an electric honda fit IoniQ 5 comes close. It's the first EV that made me go "omg I want that!". One of these days I'll take one for a test drive. Looks so

by Swizec 3y ago

> an electric honda fit IoniQ 5 comes close. It's the first EV that made me go "omg I want that!". One of these days I'll take one for a test drive. Looks so cool, isn't super huge even though it's still big, and doesn't even try to look like a SUV. Although maybe I've been in USA too long and my perception is skewed because Wikipedia calls it a "compact crossover suv". Maybe battery size is a limiting factor here? The electric mustang looks like an SUV, but has a lower ground clearance (5.1in) than the sports car internal combustion version (5.3in)

bombcar 3y ago
SUV is also an over-abused term because it used to only refer to giant vehicles, but now all the various compacts and crossovers are just cars that ride a bit higher. And all things considered, a car with a trunk will almost always lose to the same vehicle with a more SUV-like end, because it can hold more.
- Kon-Peki 3y ago
  > a car with a trunk will almost always lose to the same vehicle with a more SUV-like end, because it can hold more. Modern SUV-like vehicles often have such raked back-ends that they barely hold more than the equivalent sedan. The opening and ease of loading is much better, however. Something like a 3/4 size Subaru Outback would be a really killer EV
mikestew 3y ago
IoniQ 5 comes close. We've got one. Great car, but it's no Honda Fit. As it had to fit in the same garage slot as the Nissan Leaf it replaced, I can confirm with my own eyes that it's only about six inches longer than the Leaf. But, man, a compact car it is not. I look at a Honda Fit as an even smaller version of the Scion xB we also have, and the Ioniq 5 dwarfs the Scion for interior passenger space. Additionally, judging how well a 3/4 acoustic bass fits, even has a bit more cargo space with the seats down. My six foot body could sleep with legs extended in the Ioniq 5 (I even bought a Backseat Bivy[0] for it), but the Scion is shy a few inches for that. Re: "compact crossover SUV", well, they had to call it something, didn't they? But, no, it's not an SUV. "Station wagon" is close, but it's not one of those, either. It's really a four-door hatchback, but if you're thinking "hot hatch", well, not exactly that, either. So who knows what to call it? But if one is looking for an electric version of a simple, small car, I don't know that the Ioniq 5 qualifies. Still, as Ferris Bueller said, if you have the means, I highly recommend one. [0] https://backseatbivy.com https://backseatbivy.com
chucksta 3y ago
Buy an electric car from a company that didn't bother to put immobilizers on their cars for 10 years? I wouldn't be able to get past "What did they skimp on this time?" https://www.engadget.com/hyundai-will-pay-200-million-after-a-tiktok-challenge-exposed-a-huge-security-flaw-133327405.html https://www.engadget.com/hyundai-will-pay-200-million-after-...
saaaaaam 3y ago
This is definitely a US mindset. In Europe I look at the Ioniq 5 and think “that’s a huge car”. I love the Citroen Ami and the Microlino. I very nearly bought an Ami earlier this year (I test drove it. It’s insane and absolutely should not work - but somehow it does!) but decided I’ll hold off for the Microlino Citroen Ami: https://electricscooters.eu/citroen-ami/ https://electricscooters.eu/citroen-ami/ Microlino: https://microlino-car.com/en/ https://microlino-car.com/en/ Fiat is releasing a similar one soon, the Topolino: https://www.fiat.com/fiat-topolino/topolino https://www.fiat.com/fiat-topolino/topolino

by Swizec 3y ago

bombcar 3y ago

SUV is also an over-abused term because it used to only refer to giant vehicles, but now all the various compacts and crossovers are just cars that ride a bit higher. And all things considered, a car with a trunk will almost always lose to the same vehicle with a more SUV-like end, because it can hold more.

Kon-Peki 3y ago
> a car with a trunk will almost always lose to the same vehicle with a more SUV-like end, because it can hold more. Modern SUV-like vehicles often have such raked back-ends that they barely hold more than the equivalent sedan. The opening and ease of loading is much better, however. Something like a 3/4 size Subaru Outback would be a really killer EV

mikestew 3y ago

IoniQ 5 comes close. We've got one. Great car, but it's no Honda Fit. As it had to fit in the same garage slot as the Nissan Leaf it replaced, I can confirm with my own eyes that it's only about six inches longer than the Leaf. But, man, a compact car it is not. I look at a Honda Fit as an even smaller version of the Scion xB we also have, and the Ioniq 5 dwarfs the Scion for interior passenger space. Additionally, judging how well a 3/4 acoustic bass fits, even has a bit more cargo space with the seats down. My six foot body could sleep with legs extended in the Ioniq 5 (I even bought a Backseat Bivy[0] for it), but the Scion is shy a few inches for that. Re: "compact crossover SUV", well, they had to call it something, didn't they? But, no, it's not an SUV. "Station wagon" is close, but it's not one of those, either. It's really a four-door hatchback, but if you're thinking "hot hatch", well, not exactly that, either. So who knows what to call it? But if one is looking for an electric version of a simple, small car, I don't know that the Ioniq 5 qualifies. Still, as Ferris Bueller said, if you have the means, I highly recommend one. [0] https://backseatbivy.com https://backseatbivy.com

chucksta 3y ago

Buy an electric car from a company that didn't bother to put immobilizers on their cars for 10 years? I wouldn't be able to get past "What did they skimp on this time?" https://www.engadget.com/hyundai-will-pay-200-million-after-a-tiktok-challenge-exposed-a-huge-security-flaw-133327405.html https://www.engadget.com/hyundai-will-pay-200-million-after-...

saaaaaam 3y ago

This is definitely a US mindset. In Europe I look at the Ioniq 5 and think “that’s a huge car”. I love the Citroen Ami and the Microlino. I very nearly bought an Ami earlier this year (I test drove it. It’s insane and absolutely should not work - but somehow it does!) but decided I’ll hold off for the Microlino Citroen Ami: https://electricscooters.eu/citroen-ami/ https://electricscooters.eu/citroen-ami/ Microlino: https://microlino-car.com/en/ https://microlino-car.com/en/ Fiat is releasing a similar one soon, the Topolino: https://www.fiat.com/fiat-topolino/topolino https://www.fiat.com/fiat-topolino/topolino