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How China is tearing down Islam – FT
- nvoeiah 3y ago[flagged]
- mmh0000 3y ago[flagged]
- jimbob45 3y agoWhich is weird because China-Iranian relations seem to be pretty strong atm[0]. I guess Iran looks the other way when China eradicates their own Muslims and China looks the other way when Iran eradicates their own Taoists/Buddhists? [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Iran_relations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Iran_relations
- CharlieDigital 3y agoThe Iranian government is about as Islamic as the Chinese government is Communist. Both countries simply have a ruling class that is using an ideology to wield control.
- morninglight 3y agoThey have over a thousand years of European and American religious history to study for inspiration.
- selimthegrim 3y agoThe Uyghurs are not Shiites.
- bobthepanda 3y agoTo be fair, a lot of Muslim countries, Shiite or Sunni, do not care for the Uighur plight. Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc. are all happy to take Chinese money.
- Gibbon1 3y agoAnd they aren't Arabs either.
- user12344321 3y ago[flagged]
- Morte42 3y agoIran has also rebuilt its own mosques with Persian design cues. In fact there is no single Islamic style anymore. At one time mosques were like outposts that advertised the religion so they had to be built to be identifiable to strangers and mosques everywhere had a largely Arab design language. But given that these mosques were quickly erected they often needed repair and the differences in climate, culture and available building materials as well as advancing knowledge of construction techniques meant that parts of the mosque were modified. There are only two structures in Islam that can't be modified, everything else just needs to serve the function of hosting a large group of people in accordance with local safety regulations. Yes, really. That's it. Most mosques are formerly abandoned buildings that look like warehouses. The holiest site in Islam is a simple cube. There is no specific shape or pattern you need to use to call it a mosque. FT has been on a crusade to divide Muslims and the Chinese for a while now which is why they are upset about the shape of mosques in China but okay with Muslims dying everywhere else, this article is terrible even by their very low standards. These are all completely valid mosques.
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- jnovek 3y agoFive years ago I would’ve never guessed that I would be downvoting overtly Islamophobic comments on HN. The current escalation reminds me of the early days after 9/11.
- danielbln 3y agoWhich comments are you talking about? At the time of writing, there are two comments in this thread, including yours, and none are islamophobic.
- abletonlive 3y ago[flagged]
- jnovek 3y agoEtymology is interesting stuff for sure, but I'm pretty sure that "Islamophobia" is a well-established term: it was first included in the OED in 1923.
- discard129 3y agoWorth noting that this isn’t a contradiction of the criticism of your use of it.
- jnovek 3y agoGoogle's definition is "dislike of or prejudice against Islam or Muslims, especially as a political force." which means exactly what I intended. Perhaps I don't understand the criticism -- it's supposed to be some sort of culture war thing? I'm using the normal, well-established word for this phenomenon. If you dislike the word, take it up with Oxford, I guess.
- inquirerGeneral 3y ago[dead]
- Leary 3y ago[flagged]
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- throwingrocks 3y agoThe _very_ first paragraph quotes a Muslim saying "It’s the destruction of our religion.”.
- woooooo 3y ago[flagged]
- discard129 3y agoIn a pedantic way you are correct, but obviously the article is only talking about the tearing down of Islam inside China.
- discard129 3y agoThe article also documents that they are banning young people from attending religious services. The article seems to be documenting practices designed to remove Islamic symbols and stop it from being transmitted to a younger generation. Tearing down Islam seems as good a description as any for that. I think you’ll need to explain why you think this is connected to Palestine in some way. The practices documented in the article go back many years.
- woooooo 3y ago[flagged]
- discard129 3y agoThis makes no sense. You might want to try rewriting it.
- boeingUH60 3y agoThe Chinese government detests religion in general, so it's quite weird to single out Islam here. In a pseudo-communist country, the only god is the state and leader Xi Jinping is the chosen prophet.
- candiodari 3y agoThis probably didn't help: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_China
- syspec 3y agoFrom the article, a printout of a municipal declaration posted at a school: > Why minors cannot enter religious venues > An open letter to parents and guardians of elementary and middle-school students in the entire city > Minors are at a critical stage of physical and mental development…they do not have the ability to think independently… therefore, please could all parents and friends actively cooperate and keep minors far from religion. ----- It actually seems logical to me!