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Some Dutch crosswalks give pedestrians always green, unless a car is detected, and then the pedestrian light turns red and the car gets green. The advantage of
by mcv 3y ago
Some Dutch crosswalks give pedestrians always green, unless a car is detected, and then the pedestrian light turns red and the car gets green.
The advantage of this is that it's pretty easy to detect cars by detection loops in the road, and if you detect them in time, the car doesn't even have to slow down. Unless there are too many of them; then they will sometimes have to wait for pedestrians to cross.
I don't quite understand what the flags in Bellevue are for. Are there no traffic lights? But then what are the crosswalk buttons for?
- lotsofpulp 3y ago> I don't quite understand what the flags in Bellevue are for. Are there no traffic lights? But then what are the crosswalk buttons for? It is a cheap non solution that allows leaders to say they did something without actually doing something that would require a sacrifice, such as money, or in the case, sacrificing the convenience of drivers who are presumably more politically powerfully than pedestrians.
- mcv 3y agoI get that, but it doesn't answer my question. Is there a crosswalk button without traffic lights? Are there lights but you still need to carry a flag? What exactly are the function of the button and the flag in this setup?
- lotsofpulp 3y agoPresumably, the flag is to increase the visibility of a pedestrian to increase the probability that a driver notices them. The crosswalk buttons work, the traffic lights turn red, but that does not mean a driver will pay attention and check for pedestrians. Right turns on red lights are allowed. As are left turns on greens, while the walk signal will simultaneously tell a person they can walk across the road. In both cases, the traffic light does not stop the driver, the driver has to be actively checking for a pedestrian.
- standardUser 3y agoThe crosswalk with the flags does not have a light, just a crosswalk, so cars will drive without slowing down unless a pedestrian is present. The flags simply make the pedestrian more obvious to the motorists. In other areas I've seen crosswalks with buttons that will flash lights to alter motorists. All of this absurdity could be solved with a simple stop sign, but that would be a minor inconvenience to motorists.
- mcv 3y agoSo pedestrians have a light, but cars do not have a light? Then why do pedestrians even have a light? Just make it a zebra crossing.