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Rebuilding speech/song based on existing phoneme library (i.e. the discography) is already practical and, like everything else in this domain, has been done lon

by parkan 14y ago

Rebuilding speech/song based on existing phoneme library (i.e. the discography) is already practical and, like everything else in this domain, has been done long ago in japan: http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/12/ueki-loid-speech-synthesizer/all/1 http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/12/ueki-loid-speech-synt... See also Hatsune Miku/Vocaloid, which is a fully artificial pop star that's been selling out shows (as a hologram since 2009)

cheebla 14y ago
I'm not sure if this is what you're suggesting, but I can't imagine we will ever see someone producing entirely new Tupac songs based on his phoneme library. It would be in such bad taste that even the American recording industry wouldn't go near it. People already get upset that they use old entire recordings to produce new songs, and those are actually his lyrics and his voice.
- parkan 14y ago
  To paraphrase the well-known maxim, you can never go broke underestimating the good taste of the american public (over a long enough timeframe). The IP status of the voice is a really fascinating question though, given how complex the current songwriting/master/recording breakdown is already.
  - derleth 14y ago
    > you can never go broke underestimating the good taste of the american public Is bear-baiting coming back, then?
- Aramgutang 14y ago
  On a much smaller scale, this has already been done. Tupac's posthumous "Loyal to the Game" album produced by Eminem had a number of lyrical phrases constructed out of phonemes. There was a small amount of outrage at the time of its release, but it mostly focused on the fact that those constructed lyrics were endorsing other rappers (mostly Eminem's protégés also performing on the track), whom some fans felt Tupac would not have endorsed had he been alive.
  - cheebla 14y ago
    Definitely, but I think it is a question of scale. It's one thing to construct some ad-libs, but to actually create a piece of art (i.e. an entire verse) is a whole different ball game. It would be like if someone took fragments of Picasso paintings, constructed an entirely new painting, and called it a Picasso. I suppose it's conceivable that someone might try to do it, and it's apparently technically possible, but I think it would be roundly rejected.
    - parkan 14y ago
      There are some interesting painting remix projects, by the way: http://www.studiovoltaire.org/edition-arcangel.htm http://www.studiovoltaire.org/edition-arcangel.htm
- njharman 14y ago
  > bad taste that even the American recording industry wouldn't go near it What in hell makes you believes the recording industry has good taste?
- anigbrowl 14y ago
  It would be in such bad taste that even the American recording industry wouldn't go near it. Oh, I'd take that bet. I would even bet that the producers will claim to have been in touch with his spirit.

by parkan 14y ago

cheebla 14y ago

I'm not sure if this is what you're suggesting, but I can't imagine we will ever see someone producing entirely new Tupac songs based on his phoneme library. It would be in such bad taste that even the American recording industry wouldn't go near it. People already get upset that they use old entire recordings to produce new songs, and those are actually his lyrics and his voice.

parkan 14y ago
To paraphrase the well-known maxim, you can never go broke underestimating the good taste of the american public (over a long enough timeframe). The IP status of the voice is a really fascinating question though, given how complex the current songwriting/master/recording breakdown is already.
- derleth 14y ago
  > you can never go broke underestimating the good taste of the american public Is bear-baiting coming back, then?
Aramgutang 14y ago
On a much smaller scale, this has already been done. Tupac's posthumous "Loyal to the Game" album produced by Eminem had a number of lyrical phrases constructed out of phonemes. There was a small amount of outrage at the time of its release, but it mostly focused on the fact that those constructed lyrics were endorsing other rappers (mostly Eminem's protégés also performing on the track), whom some fans felt Tupac would not have endorsed had he been alive.
- cheebla 14y ago
  Definitely, but I think it is a question of scale. It's one thing to construct some ad-libs, but to actually create a piece of art (i.e. an entire verse) is a whole different ball game. It would be like if someone took fragments of Picasso paintings, constructed an entirely new painting, and called it a Picasso. I suppose it's conceivable that someone might try to do it, and it's apparently technically possible, but I think it would be roundly rejected.
  - parkan 14y ago
    There are some interesting painting remix projects, by the way: http://www.studiovoltaire.org/edition-arcangel.htm http://www.studiovoltaire.org/edition-arcangel.htm
njharman 14y ago
> bad taste that even the American recording industry wouldn't go near it What in hell makes you believes the recording industry has good taste?
anigbrowl 14y ago
It would be in such bad taste that even the American recording industry wouldn't go near it. Oh, I'd take that bet. I would even bet that the producers will claim to have been in touch with his spirit.