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as a person who really likes workstation i imagine that i'm pretty screwed now.

mintplant 3y ago
Yep, I do my development almost entirely within a Linux VM on a Windows laptop. Workstation already feels kinda neglected (lack of support for distinguishing between P and E cores is one recent unresolved pain point), so all of this is really putting me on edge.
- candiddevmike 3y ago
  WSL2 works great for me, you should check it out
  - InvertedRhodium 3y ago
    Disk performance can be a problem under WSL2, I ended up switching to Workstations after running into this issue: https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/4197 https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/4197
    - matt_heimer 3y ago
      Seems to more of a Defender issue than a WSL one, see https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/8995 https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/8995 After adding exclusions for the fsnotifier-wsl process and and both variants of the WSL distro path my disk performance was improved. Adding the idea64.exe process also helped since I was trying to run IntelliJ against projects inside WSL.
- daynthelife 3y ago
  Is there a reason not to just install Linux (and dual boot into windows if you need it for some things)? I suppose if it’s a work laptop they might not be too pleased with this.
  - mintplant 3y ago
    Then I would have to reboot all the time to switch back and forth. And hardware acceleration is better on Windows, so I usually have web browsing, music, videos, messaging, etc, running on Windows on one monitor or virtual desktop while my terminal is open in the Linux VM on another. Like another commenter mentioned, power management on Windows is still better, too.
  - usefulcat 3y ago
    Seems like Linux laptops are generally not known for their great battery life. Would certainly be an issue for many laptop users.
    - sudosysgen 3y ago
      It's a pain in the ass to set up sometimes, but you can pretty much always get better battery life in Linux nowadays. Even with hybrid graphics laptops.
      - sitzkrieg 3y ago
        i have never got better battery life on linux with every power savibg tweak under the sun, on system76 laptops. its still awful
        fuy 3y ago
        a bit off topic, but do you know of any good resources on tuning battery life and CPU fan control for system76 laptop?
- ragesh 3y ago
  If you're on Windows and need a VM, why not use Hyper-V? I haven't touched anything from VMWare in decades, so I'm genuinely curious.
  - temeritatis 3y ago
    VMWare has the best virtual graphics performance IMHO. Hyper-V or Virtualbox is just painful in comparison. Until graphic vendors support partitioning GPU resources to allow sharing the main GPU to a VM using passthrough, it will likely remain one of the best options for many.
    - mintplant 3y ago
      Yep, this is the exact reason. I started on Virtualbox but jumped over to VMWare because the graphics virtualization was too broken under Virtualbox to do testing for web browser development (I was interning at Mozilla at the time).
steve1977 3y ago
I'd say you've been screwed for a while already.
- coconut08 3y ago
  Its true but I've been able to lie to myself up until now

Yep, I do my development almost entirely within a Linux VM on a Windows laptop. Workstation already feels kinda neglected (lack of support for distinguishing between P and E cores is one recent unresolved pain point), so all of this is really putting me on edge.

candiddevmike 3y ago
WSL2 works great for me, you should check it out
- InvertedRhodium 3y ago
  Disk performance can be a problem under WSL2, I ended up switching to Workstations after running into this issue: https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/4197 https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/4197
  - matt_heimer 3y ago
    Seems to more of a Defender issue than a WSL one, see https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/8995 https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/8995 After adding exclusions for the fsnotifier-wsl process and and both variants of the WSL distro path my disk performance was improved. Adding the idea64.exe process also helped since I was trying to run IntelliJ against projects inside WSL.
daynthelife 3y ago
Is there a reason not to just install Linux (and dual boot into windows if you need it for some things)? I suppose if it’s a work laptop they might not be too pleased with this.
- mintplant 3y ago
  Then I would have to reboot all the time to switch back and forth. And hardware acceleration is better on Windows, so I usually have web browsing, music, videos, messaging, etc, running on Windows on one monitor or virtual desktop while my terminal is open in the Linux VM on another. Like another commenter mentioned, power management on Windows is still better, too.
- usefulcat 3y ago
  Seems like Linux laptops are generally not known for their great battery life. Would certainly be an issue for many laptop users.
  - sudosysgen 3y ago
    It's a pain in the ass to set up sometimes, but you can pretty much always get better battery life in Linux nowadays. Even with hybrid graphics laptops.
    - sitzkrieg 3y ago
      i have never got better battery life on linux with every power savibg tweak under the sun, on system76 laptops. its still awful
      - fuy 3y ago
        a bit off topic, but do you know of any good resources on tuning battery life and CPU fan control for system76 laptop?
ragesh 3y ago
If you're on Windows and need a VM, why not use Hyper-V? I haven't touched anything from VMWare in decades, so I'm genuinely curious.
- temeritatis 3y ago
  VMWare has the best virtual graphics performance IMHO. Hyper-V or Virtualbox is just painful in comparison. Until graphic vendors support partitioning GPU resources to allow sharing the main GPU to a VM using passthrough, it will likely remain one of the best options for many.
  - mintplant 3y ago
    Yep, this is the exact reason. I started on Virtualbox but jumped over to VMWare because the graphics virtualization was too broken under Virtualbox to do testing for web browser development (I was interning at Mozilla at the time).

steve1977 3y ago

I'd say you've been screwed for a while already.

coconut08 3y ago
Its true but I've been able to lie to myself up until now