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I lived in downtown SF for a long time and I agree the crosswalks are a battlefield. Not just cars edging ahead or making right turns (or left turns on one way
by standardUser 3y ago
I lived in downtown SF for a long time and I agree the crosswalks are a battlefield. Not just cars edging ahead or making right turns (or left turns on one way to one way), but cyclists like to stop square in the middle of crosswalks as well.
I live in NY now and though the traffic laws are roughly the same, I almost never fear for my safety when crossing like I regularly did in SF.
- alistairSH 3y agoFWIW, cyclists do that for their own safety. It gets them out from between the cars stacked up behind. And also lets them clear the intersection while most cars are stopped (cross traffic stopped, same-way traffic only getting started). While you’re asking for better pedestrian infrastructure, consider asking for protected bike lanes as well.
- plorkyeran 3y agoYeah, I try not to block crosswalks if it looks like anyone will be using it, but partially into the crosswalk often feels like the safest place to be while waiting for a light.
- imp0cat 3y agoWe get those bike "boxes" - the first spot right next to the lights, that is reserved for cyclists - and they help a lot.
- lhomdee 3y agoIn London we have those but cars frequently stop over them either because the drivers are ignorant of the rules, they don’t care or they were too ambitious about making a green and ended up being forced to stop at the last minute. So as a cyclist I frequently have to push up to the pedestrian crossing for my own safety from cars behind.
- gmgmgmgmgm 3y ago[flagged]
- saagarjha 3y agoThe "dedicated" bike lane that cars are merging into to turn right?
- gmgmgmgmgm 3y agoNo right turn or dedicated lights and they cyclists still do it. Quit making excuses
- saagarjha 3y ago[flagged]
- InCityDreams 3y ago"They" = "some".
- kspacewalk2 3y ago>I live in NY now and though the traffic laws are roughly the same, No right turns on red is a huge improvement. Don't the five boroughs have that?
- laurencerowe 3y agoSadly I find cars turning left on green are just as much of a problem.
- kspacewalk2 3y agoI think an easy safety improvement is a median that extends past the crosswalk/bike lane[0].
- standardUser 3y agoYou are absolutely right! I've barely driven in the time I've lived here and I had forgotten. It does make a huge difference.