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It's bold to claim something does not matter without exhaustive evidence to back that up. That is not a scientific view nor a scientific statement.

vonjuice 3y ago
It would be silly to assume otherwise, actually.
ink_13 3y ago
Calling a certain frequency "A4" is also in no way scientific. It's completely arbitrary! Just agree with the other people you're playing with. That's what really matters. Musicality is in ratios, not absolute values.
feoren 3y ago
You said a <2% difference in tuning is a larger question than composition styles. Like, the difference between 440 and 432 is more important than the difference between Baroque, Romantic, Atonal, Beebop Jazz, and Death Metal. "What kind of music do you like?" "Oh literally any genre, as long as it's tuned to A4=440. If it's anything else I hate it." It's difficult for me to respond to such a statement and stay within the HN commenting guidelines. It's strange and surprising that this would be something anyone would ever argue with a straight face. It does not matter. Here's some reasons why: - You can change it at any point. Re-tune your orchestra. Pitch bend your mp3 file in Audacity. It's free to change your mind. Decisions which are free to change do not matter. - Most humans basically don't notice it. The very few that do have a good enough ear to notice it will forget about it within seconds unless your song is extremely boring. If your listeners are focusing on a 2% difference in tuning instead of the content of your song, your song sucks. - Written scores literally do not specify it; that's how little it matters. People do not have this in mind when they write music because it doesn't matter. They write the tempo, the key signature, the exact notes, but they don't write the exact tuning of A4. They don't care.
- cushpush 3y ago
  Repitching a file and tuning a whole orchestra to 432Hz are qualitatively different, claiming they are equivalent blurs a lot about sample rate and technological limitations in signal processing and signal recreation. Instruments tuned together resonate together, and the Schumann resonance is a fundamental resonance of earth, if you are multiples of that, you are going to resonate better. I think the convention that 440=432 is wrong, dangerous, and unscientific, and the claim that I can't say it with a straight face is weird because there is a paucity of research on how the different tunings affect us and the study of cymatics would suggest harmonious frequencies that live parallel to and not-on the 440Hz interval.

vonjuice 3y ago

It would be silly to assume otherwise, actually.

ink_13 3y ago

Calling a certain frequency "A4" is also in no way scientific. It's completely arbitrary! Just agree with the other people you're playing with. That's what really matters. Musicality is in ratios, not absolute values.

feoren 3y ago

You said a <2% difference in tuning is a larger question than composition styles. Like, the difference between 440 and 432 is more important than the difference between Baroque, Romantic, Atonal, Beebop Jazz, and Death Metal. "What kind of music do you like?" "Oh literally any genre, as long as it's tuned to A4=440. If it's anything else I hate it." It's difficult for me to respond to such a statement and stay within the HN commenting guidelines. It's strange and surprising that this would be something anyone would ever argue with a straight face. It does not matter. Here's some reasons why: - You can change it at any point. Re-tune your orchestra. Pitch bend your mp3 file in Audacity. It's free to change your mind. Decisions which are free to change do not matter. - Most humans basically don't notice it. The very few that do have a good enough ear to notice it will forget about it within seconds unless your song is extremely boring. If your listeners are focusing on a 2% difference in tuning instead of the content of your song, your song sucks. - Written scores literally do not specify it; that's how little it matters. People do not have this in mind when they write music because it doesn't matter. They write the tempo, the key signature, the exact notes, but they don't write the exact tuning of A4. They don't care.

cushpush 3y ago
Repitching a file and tuning a whole orchestra to 432Hz are qualitatively different, claiming they are equivalent blurs a lot about sample rate and technological limitations in signal processing and signal recreation. Instruments tuned together resonate together, and the Schumann resonance is a fundamental resonance of earth, if you are multiples of that, you are going to resonate better. I think the convention that 440=432 is wrong, dangerous, and unscientific, and the claim that I can't say it with a straight face is weird because there is a paucity of research on how the different tunings affect us and the study of cymatics would suggest harmonious frequencies that live parallel to and not-on the 440Hz interval.