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How would you feel if a Prius was advertised thousands of dollars under the actual number of dollars you pay for the car because of “fuel savings compared to a

How would you feel if a Prius was advertised thousands of dollars under the actual number of dollars you pay for the car because of “fuel savings compared to a Camero over 5 years”? Or is it only OK when Tesla does it?

shepherdjerred 3y ago
> Or is it only OK when Tesla does it? There's no reason to assume I'm biased towards Tesla here. If any carmaker wanted to say "our car is X% more efficient, and the average person could reasonably expect to save $Y", and then discount that from the sticker price, I would be okay with that. I don't think it's deceptive at all as long as the estimate is reasonable, and as long as there is clear communication about the sticker price vs the price after savings.
- chung8123 3y ago
  That is not the price of the vehicle. If anything the price should be more because the three year cost of the vehicle is more than the initial price.
- callalex 3y ago
  Then where do you draw the line? I, and almost the entire developed world, draws the line at price = number of currency units required to leave the store with the item for sale. Every car could otherwise claim a deduction because it’s more fuel efficient than a sports car or a Rolls Royce or an F-350. And some cars don’t need as expensive of tires, should they claim that deduction? What about cars that are 2 wheel drive, there’s lots of savings there over 4 wheel drive…
  - shepherdjerred 3y ago
    I mentioned this in another comment: something like EnergyGuide [0] would be great for this case, that way manufacturers like Tesla could more easily and consistently communicate how their vehicles have a lower cost of ownership. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EnergyGuide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EnergyGuide I also want to say, if Tesla was doing this in some shady way, e.g. not offering an easy way to view the true purchase price, or making unfair comparisons, I would be totally against what they're doing.

shepherdjerred 3y ago

> Or is it only OK when Tesla does it? There's no reason to assume I'm biased towards Tesla here. If any carmaker wanted to say "our car is X% more efficient, and the average person could reasonably expect to save $Y", and then discount that from the sticker price, I would be okay with that. I don't think it's deceptive at all as long as the estimate is reasonable, and as long as there is clear communication about the sticker price vs the price after savings.

chung8123 3y ago
That is not the price of the vehicle. If anything the price should be more because the three year cost of the vehicle is more than the initial price.
callalex 3y ago
Then where do you draw the line? I, and almost the entire developed world, draws the line at price = number of currency units required to leave the store with the item for sale. Every car could otherwise claim a deduction because it’s more fuel efficient than a sports car or a Rolls Royce or an F-350. And some cars don’t need as expensive of tires, should they claim that deduction? What about cars that are 2 wheel drive, there’s lots of savings there over 4 wheel drive…
- shepherdjerred 3y ago
  I mentioned this in another comment: something like EnergyGuide [0] would be great for this case, that way manufacturers like Tesla could more easily and consistently communicate how their vehicles have a lower cost of ownership. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EnergyGuide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EnergyGuide I also want to say, if Tesla was doing this in some shady way, e.g. not offering an easy way to view the true purchase price, or making unfair comparisons, I would be totally against what they're doing.