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I'm just waiting for the tool or toolchain where I can take a manga that I like that doesn't have an anime, and get a season or two out to watch when I feel lik

by EwanG 3y ago

I'm just waiting for the tool or toolchain where I can take a manga that I like that doesn't have an anime, and get a season or two out to watch when I feel like it rather than wait for it to get an official release. Bonus points if I can let the tool ingest season 1 or an OVA of said material where a season 2 is never going to come (looking at you "No Game, No Life")

Pxtl 3y ago
"Hey Bing, can you make me a live action version of the Scouring of the Shire as if it were part of the Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings movies?".
all2 3y ago
To be honest, all the pieces are there to create a pipeline. There's still a lot of work on the human side for shot composition, camera movement, etc., but the pieces all exist right now to make this a reality.
- EwanG 3y ago
  So, since I may not be familiar with everything out there right now, what pieces do you have in mind that could possibly cover what is needed? About to retire and this sounds like a project worth putting some time into :-)
__loam 3y ago
This is so bleak. I hope artists get enough legal protection in the future to stop ghouls from doing this to their work.
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  They won’t. I wonder if there will still be demand for original content though because it creates a connection. A communication of what others have to say ?
- matheusmoreira 3y ago
  I hope not. I want AI to hammer in the final nails into the coffin of intellectual property so we can finally bury it. I want this technology to be so ubiquitous it cannot be controlled. I want them to give up on controlling things with such nonsense "legal protections", society should change permanently instead.
  - __loam 3y ago
    In the absence of a legal framework, I hope enough people recognize that scooping someone else's work into some kind of grotesque anime sausage machine is super shitty to do without the input of the author, and the people doing it get ruthlessly mocked. Most anime production involves the input of and express permission from the author. Imagine someone doing this to show us "their" ending of berserk, for example. Just utterly disrespectful to Miura's legacy. The man dedicated his life to his art and you reinterpreted it like an ass hole because you lack patience and demand more content at the expense of all artistic agency. Complete trash.
    - matheusmoreira 3y ago
      > someone else's work Just a number really. That's all intellectual work is: a number. All numbers already exist, humans just discover them. I just can't take it seriously, this notion that intellectual work is somehow "special" and deserving of "protections". To me it's as delusional as trying to own numbers. > input of the author Why do you need somebody's permission to do math with numbers? Makes no sense whatsoever. > Imagine someone doing this to show us "their" ending of berserk No need to imagine it when fanfiction.net exists. AI will make it even easier.
      - DeIlliad 3y ago
        This "just math" argument is so reductionist and unhelpful.
        matheusmoreira 3y ago
        And yet it's true. Literally cannot be refuted. It's a fact that all information is a number.
- owenpalmer 3y ago
  There is no amount of legal protection that can prevent 1 individual from generating billions of movies based on an artists style. It's time embrace what the act of creating art will mean in the future. You can't just regulate away the driving force automation.
  - __loam 3y ago
    Whenever someone says something like this, my immediate reaction is to think they don't understand the economics of media or the attention economy. Productivity alone isn't a good metric.
    - owenpalmer 3y ago
      Ok, what do I not understand about the economics of media or the attention economy? Expand on your point instead of blankly stating that I'm wrong.
- boppo1 3y ago
  Artist here. I can hardly protect my work from ghouls as it is. If I want to work for a company as an illustrator, it's like pulling teeth to get my personal work separated from their IP. Many contracts I've seen were 'you get salary, we get everything you make'. Hell I've seen a contract try to claim my knowledge of niche animation tools was company property.
  - __loam 3y ago
    Not saying existant frameworks are the ideal, I just think there should be a reasonable middle ground between corporate intellectual property hellscape And corporate we steal all your work to feed our ai sausage machine hellscape.
- dclowd9901 3y ago
  It is. People who say AI won’t kick people to the curb permanently are either completely ignorant or selling it.
sgbeal 3y ago
> Bonus points if I can let the tool ingest season 1 or an OVA of said material where a season 2 is never going to come (looking at you "No Game, No Life") At long last, _Firefly_ Season 2 is within our grasp!

by EwanG 3y ago

Pxtl 3y ago

"Hey Bing, can you make me a live action version of the Scouring of the Shire as if it were part of the Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings movies?".

all2 3y ago

To be honest, all the pieces are there to create a pipeline. There's still a lot of work on the human side for shot composition, camera movement, etc., but the pieces all exist right now to make this a reality.

EwanG 3y ago
So, since I may not be familiar with everything out there right now, what pieces do you have in mind that could possibly cover what is needed? About to retire and this sounds like a project worth putting some time into :-)

__loam 3y ago

This is so bleak. I hope artists get enough legal protection in the future to stop ghouls from doing this to their work.

ChatGTP 3y ago
They won’t. I wonder if there will still be demand for original content though because it creates a connection. A communication of what others have to say ?
matheusmoreira 3y ago
I hope not. I want AI to hammer in the final nails into the coffin of intellectual property so we can finally bury it. I want this technology to be so ubiquitous it cannot be controlled. I want them to give up on controlling things with such nonsense "legal protections", society should change permanently instead.
- __loam 3y ago
  In the absence of a legal framework, I hope enough people recognize that scooping someone else's work into some kind of grotesque anime sausage machine is super shitty to do without the input of the author, and the people doing it get ruthlessly mocked. Most anime production involves the input of and express permission from the author. Imagine someone doing this to show us "their" ending of berserk, for example. Just utterly disrespectful to Miura's legacy. The man dedicated his life to his art and you reinterpreted it like an ass hole because you lack patience and demand more content at the expense of all artistic agency. Complete trash.
  - matheusmoreira 3y ago
    > someone else's work Just a number really. That's all intellectual work is: a number. All numbers already exist, humans just discover them. I just can't take it seriously, this notion that intellectual work is somehow "special" and deserving of "protections". To me it's as delusional as trying to own numbers. > input of the author Why do you need somebody's permission to do math with numbers? Makes no sense whatsoever. > Imagine someone doing this to show us "their" ending of berserk No need to imagine it when fanfiction.net exists. AI will make it even easier.
    - DeIlliad 3y ago
      This "just math" argument is so reductionist and unhelpful.
      - matheusmoreira 3y ago
        And yet it's true. Literally cannot be refuted. It's a fact that all information is a number.
owenpalmer 3y ago
There is no amount of legal protection that can prevent 1 individual from generating billions of movies based on an artists style. It's time embrace what the act of creating art will mean in the future. You can't just regulate away the driving force automation.
- __loam 3y ago
  Whenever someone says something like this, my immediate reaction is to think they don't understand the economics of media or the attention economy. Productivity alone isn't a good metric.
  - owenpalmer 3y ago
    Ok, what do I not understand about the economics of media or the attention economy? Expand on your point instead of blankly stating that I'm wrong.
boppo1 3y ago
Artist here. I can hardly protect my work from ghouls as it is. If I want to work for a company as an illustrator, it's like pulling teeth to get my personal work separated from their IP. Many contracts I've seen were 'you get salary, we get everything you make'. Hell I've seen a contract try to claim my knowledge of niche animation tools was company property.
- __loam 3y ago
  Not saying existant frameworks are the ideal, I just think there should be a reasonable middle ground between corporate intellectual property hellscape And corporate we steal all your work to feed our ai sausage machine hellscape.
dclowd9901 3y ago
It is. People who say AI won’t kick people to the curb permanently are either completely ignorant or selling it.

sgbeal 3y ago

> Bonus points if I can let the tool ingest season 1 or an OVA of said material where a season 2 is never going to come (looking at you "No Game, No Life") At long last, _Firefly_ Season 2 is within our grasp!