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It irritates me when people press the crosswalk button on quiet roads (where most of the time there is nothing coming, so you can just cross) before they have e
by userabchn 3y ago
It irritates me when people press the crosswalk button on quiet roads (where most of the time there is nothing coming, so you can just cross) before they have even looked to see if anything is coming. Most of the time they then cross immediately and the traffic light will go red some time after they have already crossed, holding up both cars and pedestrians coming behind (who might get there shortly before the traffic light goes green again, so have to wait for that and then wait for the accumulated traffic to clear before they can cross). There is a walking route near me that crosses a lot of roads and I not infrequently get caught behind someone doing this so I get stuck at every crossing.
- drawkward 3y ago[flagged]
- zenbowman 3y agoSame. Slowing down traffic is an inherent good, whether or not you have any intention of crossing.
- dexterdog 3y ago[flagged]
- giraffe_lady 3y ago[flagged]
- organsnyder 3y agoMany drivers in the United States rarely—if ever—use walking as anything other than for getting from their vehicle to their destination.
- tom_ 3y ago[flagged]
- dang 3y agoCan you please not take HN threads further into flamewar? We're trying for the opposite here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
- sndindndmd 3y ago[flagged]
- dang 3y agoI posted moderation replies to people on both sides of the argument who were breaking the site guidelines. It's possible that I missed others. This is common, actually, because we don't come close to seeing everything that gets posted to HN and we often don't read the threads in order. If you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, that's the likeliest explanation. You can always help by flagging it or emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=likeliest%20explanation%20by%3Adang&sort=byDate&type=commente https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
- drawkward 3y agoI don't care whether they hate pedestrians; I merely want them to not kill pedestrians.
- bryanlarsen 3y agothis is why: https://theoatmeal.com/pl/minor_differences/cutting_off https://theoatmeal.com/pl/minor_differences/cutting_off
- dang 3y agoCan you please not take HN threads further into flamewar? We're trying for the opposite here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
- dimitrios1 3y agoThis is a perfect case of thinking you are doing a net good, but in actuality just doing more harm by pissing a lot of drivers off and potentially causing a road rage incident. Do this in a large northern city and you may even get more than what you bargained for.
- drawkward 3y ago[flagged]
- scarystrage 3y ago[flagged]
- estebank 3y agoBeing driven to rage by traffic lights should be disqualifying to have a driver's license.
- scarystrage 3y ago[flagged]
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- emgeee 3y agoNot a big fan on the reliance of cars either but doing this wastes energy and contributes more to pollution.
- dang 3y agoPlease don't take HN threads into nationalistic flamewar. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: also, please don't take HN threads further into flamewar! as you did below: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38477500 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38477500. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- rootusrootus 3y agoThat's pretty antisocial behavior. Humans walk, humans drive cars, and we have good reasons for both modes of transportation. Crosswalks are an attempt to allow coexistence safely. Antagonizing people who are using a different mode of transportation at the moment does not seem helpful at all. You may even cause other people to become accustomed to seeing crosswalk signals activated for no reason, reducing their attentiveness and increasing the risk of injury to people actually crossing the road.
- nick_ 3y agoImagine how irritating it is for every pedestrian to have to wait for every light to change, for their momentary privilege to walk across a 5ft-wide space that often has cars poking their hoods into it.
- rootusrootus 3y agoYes, everyone wishes they could move unimpeded by anybody else. But, we live in a society with many different kinds of users so we accept a bit of inconvenience in the pursuit of safety.
- nick_ 3y agoIt is the opinion of many that we have over-optimized our public spaces to nearly the sole benefit of private vehicular traffic. Apologies for the initial sarcastic reply.
- hateful 3y agoNot sure if it's everywhere - but where I am it is actually illegal to cross when it says don't cross and you can get a ticket for it. (not saying it's actually enforced).
- dexterdog 3y agoThat is true in most places I have ever been.
- nick_ 3y agoOh those are widespread. In my experience, even where those laws don't exist, they are believed to exist by the brainwashed, car-obsessed population.
- Clamchop 3y agoJay walking laws are slowly being walked back in some places. The history of such laws are interesting, by the way. That said, most of the time and in most places I've been, the de facto reality is that it's essentially lawless. Neither pedestrians nor drivers are being policed effectively and they all kind of do whatever.
- ck425 3y agoI still find the concept of jaywalking absurd. It doesn't exist in the UK and I first heard about it from an American friend at Uni who was shocked I would "jaywalk" in front of a police officer. I genuinely thought she was winding me up.
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- bscphil 3y ago> It irritates me when people press the crosswalk button on quiet roads (where most of the time there is nothing coming, so you can just cross) before they have even looked to see if anything is coming. Since you're comfortable asking pedestrians to jaywalk across the street if it looks clear, maybe you should also get comfortable with simply running the red lights on these quiet roads, since nothing is coming. At least in your case, you have a giant machine with airbags to protect you if you make a mistake.
- tzs 3y ago> Since you're comfortable asking pedestrians to jaywalk across the street if it looks clear, According to the rest of his comment, most of them are jaywalking: > Most of the time they then cross immediately and the traffic light will go red some time after they have already crossed I.e., they come to the intersection, hit the crosswalk button, and then jaywalk across instead of waiting for the signal to change. The signal then actually changes after they are across.
- userabchn 3y ago> maybe you should also get comfortable with simply running the red lights on these quiet roads, since nothing is coming. At least in your case, you have a giant machine with airbags to protect you if you make a mistake. I do not have a car. It is while walking that I am affected by the behaviour.