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> Humans define intelligence to be something about manipulating symbols and abstractions, aka language. No they do not. Nobody can agree on the definition of i
by lpapez 3y ago
> Humans define intelligence to be something about manipulating symbols and abstractions, aka language.
No they do not. Nobody can agree on the definition of intelligence and it is an open question what it is.
Are cats intelligent? They can't read but plenty of people would call them that.
Are illiterate jungle tribe people intelligent? Absolutely yes.
Your easy definition falls apart right away.
- haltist 3y agoIronically you had to use language to call me stupid. I think you should think about that for a while.
- lpapez 3y agoWhen and where did I call you stupid?
- haltist 3y agoMy mistake. Tell your VC friends you know an ultra genius on an internet forum that can solve any problem with AI and $80B. The money is the important part because without the money I can't buy the required number of GPUs for my AGI architecture. It requires building a special kind of panopticon and that is why there is such a high monetary cost to construct the panoptic computronium cathedral™. To achieve AGI will require creating an entirely new religion because enough people need to be convinced about the value of letting computers do all the thinking for managing society so there is a large marketing component as well and marketing is notoriously expensive.
- pixl97 3y agoThey didn't have to, you would have been there in person to see the disappointed look on their face and shook their head as they walked away silently. It's just that HN has no other mechanism than language to convey anything at all. Hence forums/chatrooms behave much in the same manner as LLMs do.
- haltist 3y agoIt's actually much worse than not having language. Everything on HN is just a number, literally. It's all a series of electromagnetic pulses.