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I find AI art interesting and also automated mass copyright theft. It is not settled law at all anywhere that somehow using copyrighted data as training data i

I find AI art interesting and also automated mass copyright theft. It is not settled law at all anywhere that somehow using copyrighted data as training data is legal. The companies doing this assumed it was and moved quickly as fast as possible. They invented novel legal theories (“it’s just like a human”) to justify what they did, then spread it all over the internet to shut down artists questioning the legality. If you allow AI to skirt copyright law but humans have to live by it, then human labour becomes meaningless except as training data for the next AI model, and all profit making will become concentrated into AI, while humans make nothing or next to nothing. Any innovation made by a person will be copied by the next model, which being closed source will profit only a small number of people.

pixl97 3y ago
>If you allow AI to skirt copyright law but humans have to live by it Huh? At least from the argument you're presenting you're attempting to create "The Right to Read" world by RMS. Copyright is about output, not input. If I output something too close to your copyrighted content, that's the violation. Not me getting a book and reading it and sharing it with every one of my friends. Not looking by your art and being influenced by in in my artworks. > then human labour becomes meaningless You're 150 years late for the storyline of John Henry. The problem here isn't machines can do everything and make us meaningless, where you're breaking is thinking that capitalism can even begin to work under this paradigm shift.
- kranke155 3y ago
  I don’t actually think capitalism can work under this paradigm shift. Unfortunately for me, that is a bleeding edge understanding of reality that hasn’t propagated to the billions of people who live under capitalism. That’s the tragedy. AI is a dystopian technology under current economics. If you change the economics AI is utopian. But we’re electing neoliberal governments, for the most part, in the West. Million $ question: what’s to be done ?

pixl97 3y ago

>If you allow AI to skirt copyright law but humans have to live by it Huh? At least from the argument you're presenting you're attempting to create "The Right to Read" world by RMS. Copyright is about output, not input. If I output something too close to your copyrighted content, that's the violation. Not me getting a book and reading it and sharing it with every one of my friends. Not looking by your art and being influenced by in in my artworks. > then human labour becomes meaningless You're 150 years late for the storyline of John Henry. The problem here isn't machines can do everything and make us meaningless, where you're breaking is thinking that capitalism can even begin to work under this paradigm shift.

kranke155 3y ago
I don’t actually think capitalism can work under this paradigm shift. Unfortunately for me, that is a bleeding edge understanding of reality that hasn’t propagated to the billions of people who live under capitalism. That’s the tragedy. AI is a dystopian technology under current economics. If you change the economics AI is utopian. But we’re electing neoliberal governments, for the most part, in the West. Million $ question: what’s to be done ?