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How about a carbon offset credit where companies pool money into a big pot and start building nuclear powerplants? And then we 'offset' their carbon emissions b
by sickofparadox 3y ago
How about a carbon offset credit where companies pool money into a big pot and start building nuclear powerplants? And then we 'offset' their carbon emissions by them buying electricity from the plant. Instead of people lying about planting trees or other opaque nonsense. We built our way into this problem, it makes sense to build our way out.
- Teever 3y agoWhy nuclear plants and not solar, wind or geothermal?
- xnx 3y agoSolar and wind are already being built almost as fast as they can (grid permitting).
- cronix 3y agoIt works 24/7
- Teever 3y agoExcept it doesn't work for the 20 years that it takes to build a nuclear power plant.
- sickofparadox 3y agoSkill issue - overcome after we build a few and streamline the onerous permitting process.
- Teever 3y agoThat will still take at least 20 years.
- sickofparadox 3y ago"A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit." Long term investment into the future is a good thing.
- Teever 3y agoI agree with that sentiment but do we have 20 years to spend waiting to stave off climate change?
- sickofparadox 3y agoI'm not saying to only build nuclear, but it'll certainly help us out down the line, and not building it is almost certainly far worse than the potential of it being slow to build.
- agent327 3y agoOh, is it 20 now? Strange that the US does so much worse than the global average, which is 6-8 years. Is it a competency issue, you think?
- jonhohle 3y agoIt amazes me how we could do things so quickly in the past (e.g. build a nuclear power plant, get to the moon). Shippingport was built in 4 years.
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- shockeychap 3y agoIt works reliably and predictably in all weather conditions. It is able to produce enough energy to meet all of our needs. None of the other options satisfies both of these things. Some satisfy neither.
- Teever 3y agoI bet you would see more, cheaper energy if you overbuilt solar and wind and strategically placed it across all the time zones of America.
- waitforit 3y ago> It works reliably and predictably in all weather conditions. So they don't need to be shut down when it's getting too hot to cool them? https://qz.com/1348969/europes-heatwave-is-forcing-nuclear-power-plants-to-shut-down https://qz.com/1348969/europes-heatwave-is-forcing-nuclear-p... https://www.energylivenews.com/2012/08/14/us-nuclear-plant-shut-down-in-too-much-heat https://www.energylivenews.com/2012/08/14/us-nuclear-plant-s...
- vlovich123 3y agoIt’s highly ironic that fossil fuels might be creating a problem that cripples nuclear fission going forward. That being said, I’m hoping we manage to scale up direct energy transfer and bypass the need for turbines.
- kcplate 3y agoThe real irony is that environmental activism using FUD against nuclear energy tech in the ‘70s through early ‘90s crippled it even more.
- jonhohle 3y agoWe have one on central Arizona that never needs to shut down due to heat and definitely does not rely on sea water for cooling. So no, they don’t need to shut down when it gets too hot if they are designed for the heat.
- stronglikedan 3y agosolar - nuclear is always on wind - nuclear has a small defined footprint and doesn't kill animals geothermal - nuclear can be built anywhere nuclear - is safe and effective
- bad_alloc 3y ago> nuclear is always on When is peak energy demand during the day/month/year? > nuclear can be built anywhere Like Fukushima? How do you handle lack of cooling water during droughts (see France 2022)? > doesn't kill animals How many animals get killed by wind farms roughly? > is safe and effective What is the cost per MWh including building cost + waste disposal costs?
- tokai 3y ago>How many animals get killed by wind farms roughly? Half a million a year in the US. Maybe. https://abcbirds.org/blog21/wind-turbine-mortality/ https://abcbirds.org/blog21/wind-turbine-mortality/
- InitialLastName 3y agoFor complete context, that's out of 7.2 billion birds in the US [0]. So 7 per 100k per year. [0] https://www.denverpost.com/2019/09/20/bird-population-decrease-third-fewer/ https://www.denverpost.com/2019/09/20/bird-population-decrea...
- linksnapzz 3y ago>> nuclear can be built anywhere >Like Fukushima? How do you handle lack of cooling water during droughts (see France 2022)? Fukushima had problems that were known before the tsunami, that TEPCO failed to address. Likewise, EDF has (and still had) power-delivery in France during the summer of 2022; "summer" being an event that has happened with some regularity in southern Europe for some time.
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- sickofparadox 3y agoWe are already building those - at significant taxpayer subsidy. The companies actually creating most of the pollution should help deal with base load by building many large nuclear plants.