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It appears they purposefully did not precondition any of the batteries. In fact, they don't even mention preconditioning. Why not? On top of that, it appears t
by cs702 3y ago
It appears they purposefully did not precondition any of the batteries. In fact, they don't even mention preconditioning. Why not?
On top of that, it appears that they conducted the tests using only CCS adapters, which in the US are now being dumped by every manufacturer in favor of NACS adapters, i.e., what Tesla uses. NACS isn't even mentioned. Why not?
I routinely take road trips on two long-range Teslas, and typically 1000+ miles/hour when the battery is preconditioned and has no more than 20-25% left.
In practice, I just type or say a destination and the car figures out if, when, and where it should charge to minimize travel time, automatically preconditioning the battery on its own. My usual experience is that I arrive, go to the bathroom, grab a drink and/or a snack, come back to the car, and voilà, the car has added 120-180 miles of range.
EDITS: Added comment about NACS.
- jefftk 3y ago> They purposefully did not precondition any of the batteries. Where are you seeing that? It looks like they use P3 for the testing, and while I'd like it if P3 was clearer about their testing approach it sounds to me like they do precondition? https://www.p3-group.com/en/p3-charging-index-comparison-of-the-fast-charging-capability-of-various-electric-vehicles-from-a-users-perspective_07-22/ https://www.p3-group.com/en/p3-charging-index-comparison-of-...
- pbjtime 3y ago1000+ mph? Must be a Tesla plaid.
- _ea1k 3y agoThe Model 3 can do that, and the Model Y as well on some occasions... but the catch is that it is 1000 rated miles. Real world mileage is much lower.
- bryanlarsen 3y agoThey can do their rated mileage -- if you don't mind driving 55.
- _ea1k 3y agoYeah, I know. It makes perfect sense too, since "rated" is basically like "combined mileage". But I rarely supercharge in situations where I will be doing 55 mph.
- _ea1k 3y agoThis is Edmunds. They are better at making pretty graphs that look like they would be informative, than at actually informing. The Out of Spec Motoring 10%/15 minute challenge is a much better practical measure: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_jw_Q1ikuE93fZjRZyx0k868cyrWuiqN4ynb0uv79I8/edit#gid=0 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_jw_Q1ikuE93fZjRZyx0... It also highlights a lot of issues being mentioned by others here. The Taycan is amazing... when it isn't being let down by their sibling company (EA). The Model 3 base is really a bargain, with competitive speeds and one of the lowest prices. And Tesla's 4680 batteries so far? Terrible.
- kalleboo 3y agoNACS is just CCS charging over a differently-shaped plug. Tesla charging is not NACS charging - older Tesla supercharger hardware generations will not support NACS.