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I probably need to look at their methodology, but my Model 3 hit 1017mi/hr at a 250kW station this month. With Tesla, on a long trip, the battery will pre-condi

by samch 3y ago

I probably need to look at their methodology, but my Model 3 hit 1017mi/hr at a 250kW station this month. With Tesla, on a long trip, the battery will pre-condition itself (heating I believe) to allow for faster charging rates. To be fair the number I quoted above, was with a single-digital SOC and a pre-conditioned system. Nevertheless, my real world experience is nearly 2x what Edmunds is reporting.

cs702 3y ago
I routinely take road trips on two long-range Teslas, and that's my experience as well: 1000+ miles/hour when the battery is preconditioned and has less than 20-25% left. The beautiful thing is that, when I'm driving, anytime I tap the supercharger button on the screen and click on a nearby supercharger, the car will precondition the battery on its own for maximum charging efficiency. I don't have to do anything! for road trips, I just type or say a destination and the car figures out if, when, and where it should charge to minimize travel time, and it automagically preconditions the battery on its own. My usual experience is that I arrive, go to the bathroom, grab a drink and a snack, come back to the car, and voilà, it's added 120-180 miles of range.
- LeafItAlone 3y ago
  Isn’t that true only if 1. You plug the Supercharger into the navigation system, so it knows it’s going to one? If you just hit up a convenient stop, it won’t. 2. Your trip to the Supercharger is long enough for it to matter. If it’s nearby, the preconditioning doesn’t seem to get it warm enough by the time you get there. At least that was my experience in a rental.
  - cs702 3y ago
    Yes. I was editing my comment to say the same as you were writing your response! In practice, I just type or say destinations and let the car figure out if, when, and where to supercharge.
DeRock 3y ago
Is that the “peak” rate? Or your average rate? The article is about the latter. Additionally, it uses the actual measured average efficiency of driving for calculating miles, not what the car itself reports (teslas tend to be far too optimistic here)
- kalleboo 3y ago
  Exactly - one of the important things about actually testing the average rate is that different cars will have very different charging curves. Over a 30 minute charge, one car may have a high peak rate but will taper off quicker leaving a slower overall charge.

by samch 3y ago

cs702 3y ago

I routinely take road trips on two long-range Teslas, and that's my experience as well: 1000+ miles/hour when the battery is preconditioned and has less than 20-25% left. The beautiful thing is that, when I'm driving, anytime I tap the supercharger button on the screen and click on a nearby supercharger, the car will precondition the battery on its own for maximum charging efficiency. I don't have to do anything! for road trips, I just type or say a destination and the car figures out if, when, and where it should charge to minimize travel time, and it automagically preconditions the battery on its own. My usual experience is that I arrive, go to the bathroom, grab a drink and a snack, come back to the car, and voilà, it's added 120-180 miles of range.

LeafItAlone 3y ago
Isn’t that true only if 1. You plug the Supercharger into the navigation system, so it knows it’s going to one? If you just hit up a convenient stop, it won’t. 2. Your trip to the Supercharger is long enough for it to matter. If it’s nearby, the preconditioning doesn’t seem to get it warm enough by the time you get there. At least that was my experience in a rental.
- cs702 3y ago
  Yes. I was editing my comment to say the same as you were writing your response! In practice, I just type or say destinations and let the car figure out if, when, and where to supercharge.

DeRock 3y ago

Is that the “peak” rate? Or your average rate? The article is about the latter. Additionally, it uses the actual measured average efficiency of driving for calculating miles, not what the car itself reports (teslas tend to be far too optimistic here)

kalleboo 3y ago
Exactly - one of the important things about actually testing the average rate is that different cars will have very different charging curves. Over a 30 minute charge, one car may have a high peak rate but will taper off quicker leaving a slower overall charge.