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It's a fork from MenuetOS, which might be interesting to check out as well, if you're interested in this!
by rijoja 3y ago
It's a fork from MenuetOS, which might be interesting to check out as well, if you're interested in this!
- lproven 3y agoIndeed, a hostile one AIUI, and both projects continue separately, which seems like a huge waste of effort to me. I would love to see a deep and knowledgeable comparison between them.
- rijoja 3y agohm ... would you know what the differences are featurewise, by any chance?
- Retr0id 3y agoPerhaps I'm selling them short, but I was under the impression that both are hobby projects done for their own sake, so it's not really "wasted" effort.
- rijoja 3y agoWell, if someone decides to fork the project in order to undermine the original project out of spite ...
- lproven 3y agoIsn't hobbyist effort still effort? Human labour, being duplicated? This is a feature of many FOSS projects, sadly, and I don't really get what aspect of human nature drives it, but it must be something. Not counting efforts where someone forks an old version because they don't like where the team are taking the new version (Trinity vs KDE, MATE vs GNOME)... There are 2 current forks of Mandriva doing much the same: Mageia and OpenMandriva. (There are others but with deeper differences.) Claws is a fork of Sylpheed, both continuing separately. Cinnamon, the Zorin OS desktop, and GNOME Flashback are all doing more or less the same things with the same codebase.
- andsoitis 3y ago> Isn't hobbyist effort still effort? Human labour, being duplicated? This is a feature of many FOSS projects, sadly, and I don't really get what aspect of human nature drives it, but it must be something. Curiosity, Joy, learning, status, …
- Retr0id 3y agoThe other examples you give are all software that people use "in the real world" as a means to solve problems. The value comes from using them. The developers may also enjoy working on them, but that's mostly incidental. I can't speak for the kolibrios contributors, but I imagine that to them, the value comes from the development process itself. They do it because they enjoy it. Any practical usefulness of the resulting software is mostly incidental. If your goal was to develop useful software in 2023, you wouldn't be writing pure x86 assembly within the constraints of a floppy disk.
- inportb 3y agoHobbyist effort is human labor for the hobbyist's benefit, not someone else's benefit. If the Kolibri OS folks experience unique enjoyment from developing this project that they would not obtain from Menuet OS, then the labor would not be duplicated.
- anthk 3y ago- Mplayer/MPV. Mplayer works better on older machines, while MPV does work better in the newer ones. - FVWM from TWM. Much faster and smaller. - RXVT vs XTerm. - Slashem from Nethack. You want Discworld references, > Nethack 3.4.3. Fullfilling role, mons and object additions, Slashem.
- yuk768k768k78 3y ago[flagged]
- IlliOnato 3y agoBy this logic, playing videogames is a wasted effort, too. "Why all these people playing Prince of Persia fight on their own? Why don't they all get together and free the Princesse once and for all?" :-)