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It's hilarious that someone that says it's in Ukraine, "country at war", writes that God bless an state that has brought that same war to hundreds of places in

It's hilarious that someone that says it's in Ukraine, "country at war", writes that God bless an state that has brought that same war to hundreds of places in the world. In an article discussing an incident where the country that God should bless killed 290 innocent civilians because they wanted to. Not very different from Russia to me.

gambiting 3y ago
What a weird take. Is it really so hard to put yourself in their shoes? If my country was being attacked and America gave us weapons to fight back I'd also say "god bless America" even though I don't believe in god and I'm very aware of all attrocities America has committed in wars across the globe(and still does). Is that so hard to imagine? >>Not very different from Russia to me. Did you think about this sentence for more than 2 seconds before you typed it?
- severino 3y ago
  > Is it really so hard to put yourself in their shoes? So was it really hard for him to put himself in the shoes of the people to whom America did what Russia is doing to his country? I guess being in the same situation would make him to better empathize with these peoples. But maybe not. > If my country was being attacked and America gave us weapons to fight back I'd also say "god bless America" even though I don't believe in god and I'm very aware of all attrocities America has committed in wars across the globe(and still does). Is that so hard to imagine? I don't know. What would you think if some random Syrian guy wrote "God bless Russia" in a post talking about the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 which was, allegedly, shot sown by Russian forces in the Dombass?
  - gambiting 3y ago
    >>So was it really hard for him to put himself in the shoes of the people to whom America did what Russia is doing to his country? I've literally addressed it. These two are not mutually exclusive. I'm going to be thankful to the country giving me weapons to fight my invader, even if that country is a scumbag too. That shouldn't be difficult concept to grasp. Do you think Ukraine should be like "uhm no thanks US, we don't want your missiles, we're good". What country under active invasion would do that?? >>What would you think if some random Syrian guy wrote "God bless Russia" in a post talking about the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 which was, allegedly, shot sown by Russian forces in the Dombass? I have no idea, because I don't see how that's related.
- vGPU 3y ago
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  - gambiting 3y ago
    >>Considering the fact that America’s involvement in Ukraine is the reason Ukraine is in the war to start with? The only side to blame for invading Ukraine is Russia. Literally no one else. That's not to say US hasn't had involvement in Ukrainian politics - I'm sure they did. The responsibility for the invasion still lies 100% with Russia.
    - tmcdos 3y ago
      This is the old maxima "Divide and conquer" - make two sister nations fight with each other for your own benefits. Then you can always look innocent and blame one or the two fighting parties for their own fight.
      - gambiting 3y ago
        And it's also a very convenient propaganda technique used by Russia all the time - "look we didn't really want to do this, it's the foreign interference in Ukrainian politics that made us attack them!". Like, ok, sure - but you are still the ones pulling the trigger.
      - simne 3y ago
        Ukraine is not sister nation to Russia. This is old Russian propaganda, in reality, Ukraine is old European nation and Russia is Asian (just remember about mummy at center of Russian capital, and think, where at Western country exists something comparable). Claiming Ukraine sister nation for Russia is not exact same, but similar to claim Israel sister nation to Iran, or Japan sister nation to China.
    - vGPU 3y ago
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mensetmanusman 3y ago
Or, life is complicated.
- simne 3y ago
  Life is simple, if all need measures implemented on time. And partially, when you could delegate important things to other people, so you don't have to do all important things yourself. Unfortunately, some important things have not done by Ukraine, some have not done by West, and now we have this huge mess.

gambiting 3y ago

What a weird take. Is it really so hard to put yourself in their shoes? If my country was being attacked and America gave us weapons to fight back I'd also say "god bless America" even though I don't believe in god and I'm very aware of all attrocities America has committed in wars across the globe(and still does). Is that so hard to imagine? >>Not very different from Russia to me. Did you think about this sentence for more than 2 seconds before you typed it?

severino 3y ago
> Is it really so hard to put yourself in their shoes? So was it really hard for him to put himself in the shoes of the people to whom America did what Russia is doing to his country? I guess being in the same situation would make him to better empathize with these peoples. But maybe not. > If my country was being attacked and America gave us weapons to fight back I'd also say "god bless America" even though I don't believe in god and I'm very aware of all attrocities America has committed in wars across the globe(and still does). Is that so hard to imagine? I don't know. What would you think if some random Syrian guy wrote "God bless Russia" in a post talking about the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 which was, allegedly, shot sown by Russian forces in the Dombass?
- gambiting 3y ago
  >>So was it really hard for him to put himself in the shoes of the people to whom America did what Russia is doing to his country? I've literally addressed it. These two are not mutually exclusive. I'm going to be thankful to the country giving me weapons to fight my invader, even if that country is a scumbag too. That shouldn't be difficult concept to grasp. Do you think Ukraine should be like "uhm no thanks US, we don't want your missiles, we're good". What country under active invasion would do that?? >>What would you think if some random Syrian guy wrote "God bless Russia" in a post talking about the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 which was, allegedly, shot sown by Russian forces in the Dombass? I have no idea, because I don't see how that's related.
vGPU 3y ago
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- gambiting 3y ago
  >>Considering the fact that America’s involvement in Ukraine is the reason Ukraine is in the war to start with? The only side to blame for invading Ukraine is Russia. Literally no one else. That's not to say US hasn't had involvement in Ukrainian politics - I'm sure they did. The responsibility for the invasion still lies 100% with Russia.
  - tmcdos 3y ago
    This is the old maxima "Divide and conquer" - make two sister nations fight with each other for your own benefits. Then you can always look innocent and blame one or the two fighting parties for their own fight.
    - gambiting 3y ago
      And it's also a very convenient propaganda technique used by Russia all the time - "look we didn't really want to do this, it's the foreign interference in Ukrainian politics that made us attack them!". Like, ok, sure - but you are still the ones pulling the trigger.
    - simne 3y ago
      Ukraine is not sister nation to Russia. This is old Russian propaganda, in reality, Ukraine is old European nation and Russia is Asian (just remember about mummy at center of Russian capital, and think, where at Western country exists something comparable). Claiming Ukraine sister nation for Russia is not exact same, but similar to claim Israel sister nation to Iran, or Japan sister nation to China.
  - vGPU 3y ago
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mensetmanusman 3y ago

Or, life is complicated.

simne 3y ago
Life is simple, if all need measures implemented on time. And partially, when you could delegate important things to other people, so you don't have to do all important things yourself. Unfortunately, some important things have not done by Ukraine, some have not done by West, and now we have this huge mess.