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That's pathetic. I cannot respect someone and will not work under someone who functions that way. A personality cultist.

by calf 3y ago

b112 3y ago
It's also an unvalidated claim, predicated upon assumptions. I've hired people I "don't like" on a personal level. I care more about their ability to work positively with oters, and their professionalism and skill. Yet you and the parent poster have assumed he is hiring a cult, because he spends time evaluating? A weird assumption to make.
- contrarian1234 3y ago
  oh sorry - I didn't mean it in a nefarious way at all I think it's just human nature to not hire people you feel you won't get along with. If you're deeply involved in all your hires, then I feel you'll end up with an organization full of people that you get along with and who you like (and probably like you back). I wouldn't go so far as to say it'd make a personality cult - though with their lofty mission statements and ambitions to make the world better.. who knows. Not going to psychoanalyze a bunch of people I don't know "I've hired people I "don't like" on a personal level." I'm honestly impressed... I feel that's rather exceptional. I feel a lot of hiring goes on "gut feeling"
  - b112 3y ago
    Perhaps my gut feeling is just tuned more towards competence, than personality sync? I often find lacking competencies to be more jarring than variant personalities.
    - contrarian1234 3y ago
      I'm guessing if you're a candidate for OpenAI you're already top of your game and working at the cutting edge . Just a matter of degree. While I'm sure he's competent, he's probably not in a position to quiz them on the latest research
- calf 3y ago
  Why is your argument from authority relevant at all here? 1. For that matter, I would not work with a boss who doesn't recognize an argument from authority as a response. 2. Furthermore a boss who lacks critical thinking skills and can't recognize a mildly skeptical comment for what it is. 3. Why assume I'm rigidly taking any position re. Altman in particular? 4. "That's pathetic" is not "He's pathetic", so perhaps the problem here is your low reading comprehension level, and not any particular assumption that I have committed to at all. 5. "A weird assumption" -- so, you decide it's weird because you just read it wrongly? Or, if something seems weird, why not ask a curious question and find out? Listening skills? Why is it so important to make this about another commenter? I find your poor faith interpretation of my comment to be offensive. You've at the used your professionalism as pretense to biasedly cast judgment on what is a critical or even mildly skeptical general remark. This reflects the bad side of tech culture. You should apologize.
  - b112 3y ago
    Buddy, trying to pretend your comment didn't exist in the contextualized space it did, when you replied, is not viable. And your response is way out in left field.

That's pathetic. I cannot respect someone and will not work under someone who functions that way. A personality cultist.

by calf 3y ago

That's pathetic. I cannot respect someone and will not work under someone who functions that way. A personality cultist.

b112 3y ago

It's also an unvalidated claim, predicated upon assumptions. I've hired people I "don't like" on a personal level. I care more about their ability to work positively with oters, and their professionalism and skill. Yet you and the parent poster have assumed he is hiring a cult, because he spends time evaluating? A weird assumption to make.

contrarian1234 3y ago
oh sorry - I didn't mean it in a nefarious way at all I think it's just human nature to not hire people you feel you won't get along with. If you're deeply involved in all your hires, then I feel you'll end up with an organization full of people that you get along with and who you like (and probably like you back). I wouldn't go so far as to say it'd make a personality cult - though with their lofty mission statements and ambitions to make the world better.. who knows. Not going to psychoanalyze a bunch of people I don't know "I've hired people I "don't like" on a personal level." I'm honestly impressed... I feel that's rather exceptional. I feel a lot of hiring goes on "gut feeling"
- b112 3y ago
  Perhaps my gut feeling is just tuned more towards competence, than personality sync? I often find lacking competencies to be more jarring than variant personalities.
  - contrarian1234 3y ago
    I'm guessing if you're a candidate for OpenAI you're already top of your game and working at the cutting edge . Just a matter of degree. While I'm sure he's competent, he's probably not in a position to quiz them on the latest research
calf 3y ago
Why is your argument from authority relevant at all here? 1. For that matter, I would not work with a boss who doesn't recognize an argument from authority as a response. 2. Furthermore a boss who lacks critical thinking skills and can't recognize a mildly skeptical comment for what it is. 3. Why assume I'm rigidly taking any position re. Altman in particular? 4. "That's pathetic" is not "He's pathetic", so perhaps the problem here is your low reading comprehension level, and not any particular assumption that I have committed to at all. 5. "A weird assumption" -- so, you decide it's weird because you just read it wrongly? Or, if something seems weird, why not ask a curious question and find out? Listening skills? Why is it so important to make this about another commenter? I find your poor faith interpretation of my comment to be offensive. You've at the used your professionalism as pretense to biasedly cast judgment on what is a critical or even mildly skeptical general remark. This reflects the bad side of tech culture. You should apologize.
- b112 3y ago
  Buddy, trying to pretend your comment didn't exist in the contextualized space it did, when you replied, is not viable. And your response is way out in left field.