Context of the discussion is that density solves the housing cost problem. I pointed out that European cities have both a high density and a serious housing pro

Context of the discussion is that density solves the housing cost problem. I pointed out that European cities have both a high density and a serious housing problem, which is now impacting national elections (see the example I gave about Dutch elections thread). Saying they are better than the US is not really relevant to this discussion. > I could easily live in Lisbon right now if it wasn't for the low EU salaries (and my wife really loving being in the US). Exactly my point. Lisbon has all the goodies you mentioned (I too liked it when I visited) and yet one needs a US salary to afford a decent house there. Not possible on the median local salary.