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Well, Ukraine is not near US, but Ukraine asked US for support, trying to de-occupy Ukrainian territory, which is defined and agreed by dozen of international

by simne 3y ago

Well, Ukraine is not near US, but Ukraine asked US for support, trying to de-occupy Ukrainian territory, which is defined and agreed by dozen of international treaties. Absolutely same thing happen at Persian Gulf, allies asked for support from US and help arrived.

dontlaugh 3y ago
After the US supported a coup in 2014, installing a government and military structure that would help NATO push east (despite previous agreement) and later violate the Minsk agreements. The world would be a better place if you stayed at home.
- simne 3y ago
  Could you give adequate sources, how you decide that 2014 was coup?
  - dontlaugh 3y ago
    Even Jacobin has a decent article https://jacobin.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea https://jacobin.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia... One of its most notable events was the burning of a trade union building by self-proclaimed neo-Nazis. When fascists kill trade unionists and then end up part of the army, it tends to be a coup.
    - simne 3y ago
      This is Russian propaganda. In reality, crime gangs supported by Russians, first tried to use firearms on maidan, and also had large supply of flammable fluid. But when feel resistance, these gangs tried to hide in trade union building with those flammable fluid barrels, and just accidentally burned themselves, and maidan activists tried to rescue ALL people when burning happen. Only propagandist sources could consider trade unions storing flammable fluid barrels in building full of people, when unrest happen.
- dataworm 3y ago
  A non-downvoted and non-flagged comment that directly parrots russian propaganda with no sources whatsoever. How wonderful!
  - dontlaugh 3y ago
    As opposed to the non-downvotes and non-flagged comments parroting NATO propaganda with no sources whatsoever? Americans’ obsession with Russia is quite the thing. There are other countries out there where disagree with you without being pro-Russian.
    - dataworm 3y ago
      > As opposed to the non-downvotes and non-flagged comments parroting NATO propaganda with no sources whatsoever? As if that makes your comment any more true. These comments are based on facts. Just because they support NATO doesn't mean that they are false. Your comment, unlike imaginary 'NATO propaganda', is completely divorced from reality and full of lies. > Americans’ obsession with Russia is quite the thing. Why did you assume that I'm American? I'm Ukrainian and know the history of my country better that some pro-russian stranger on the internet. And the 'obsession' is completely justified when russia keeps commiting war crimes, destroying cities and massacring civillians. > There are other countries out there where disagree with you without being pro-Russian. Disagreeing with US' actions is one thing, supporting russia is another. Your comment is clearly the latter.

by simne 3y ago

dontlaugh 3y ago

After the US supported a coup in 2014, installing a government and military structure that would help NATO push east (despite previous agreement) and later violate the Minsk agreements. The world would be a better place if you stayed at home.

simne 3y ago
Could you give adequate sources, how you decide that 2014 was coup?
- dontlaugh 3y ago
  Even Jacobin has a decent article https://jacobin.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea https://jacobin.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia... One of its most notable events was the burning of a trade union building by self-proclaimed neo-Nazis. When fascists kill trade unionists and then end up part of the army, it tends to be a coup.
  - simne 3y ago
    This is Russian propaganda. In reality, crime gangs supported by Russians, first tried to use firearms on maidan, and also had large supply of flammable fluid. But when feel resistance, these gangs tried to hide in trade union building with those flammable fluid barrels, and just accidentally burned themselves, and maidan activists tried to rescue ALL people when burning happen. Only propagandist sources could consider trade unions storing flammable fluid barrels in building full of people, when unrest happen.
dataworm 3y ago
A non-downvoted and non-flagged comment that directly parrots russian propaganda with no sources whatsoever. How wonderful!
- dontlaugh 3y ago
  As opposed to the non-downvotes and non-flagged comments parroting NATO propaganda with no sources whatsoever? Americans’ obsession with Russia is quite the thing. There are other countries out there where disagree with you without being pro-Russian.
  - dataworm 3y ago
    > As opposed to the non-downvotes and non-flagged comments parroting NATO propaganda with no sources whatsoever? As if that makes your comment any more true. These comments are based on facts. Just because they support NATO doesn't mean that they are false. Your comment, unlike imaginary 'NATO propaganda', is completely divorced from reality and full of lies. > Americans’ obsession with Russia is quite the thing. Why did you assume that I'm American? I'm Ukrainian and know the history of my country better that some pro-russian stranger on the internet. And the 'obsession' is completely justified when russia keeps commiting war crimes, destroying cities and massacring civillians. > There are other countries out there where disagree with you without being pro-Russian. Disagreeing with US' actions is one thing, supporting russia is another. Your comment is clearly the latter.