Yeah I sometimes write tests that are separate from external dependencies still, I think the freedom I gained through this attitude is that I don’t stress too m

Yeah I sometimes write tests that are separate from external dependencies still, I think the freedom I gained through this attitude is that I don’t stress too much about it, especially in the early stages. This gives me “good enough” coverage most of the time without the sorts of extreme bending over backwards to mock out every little dependency that a purist unit testing approach would entail. As a side note I really liked using Lettuce when I was working with Django not so much because of the whole “BDD” thing which was lost on me but because of the way they did database fixtures. I wrote a little automated test runner in PHP that uses the same approach, and later wrote a little test runner in node with the same name (but never implemented database testing in it because I’m not masochistic enough to use asynchronous code to access a database): https://github.com/iaindooley/murphy https://github.com/iaindooley/murphy