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Not buying from Tesla because you hate Elon is just as silly as buying from Tesla because you love Elon.

sophacles 3y ago
Well no, buying from Tesla gives Elon money and legitimacy. If you don't like Musk, why would you contribute to his success?
- mensetmanusman 3y ago
  spacex and tesla already gave elon enough legitimacy for the history books.
  - kibwen 3y ago
    Henry Ford and Wernher von Braun are also in the history books, but not always in the ways they might have hoped for.
  - sophacles 3y ago
    Sure but there's still plenty of time to see if those histories will be the fawning sycophancy required by the totalitarian regimes he openly advocates for, the story of a brilliant businessman who was batshit insane (a la Ford) or the humorous tale of a fool who lucked into a few $billion and then squandered it all on an empire of trash.
- golol 3y ago
  Musk may be an asshole boss and he may post cringy right wing opinions on X, but trying to boycott his businesses based on those actions is quite disproportionate compared to the behaviors whole industries are engaging in regularly. Elon and his companies are in no way worse for the world than the average car manufacturer or businessman.
  - axlee 3y ago
    He's simply trying to dismantle the Swedish social contract right now, but he's a good boy you see? Let's make him richer and gain more influence!
  - sophacles 3y ago
    Absolute rubbish. People are allowed to make purchasing decisions based on any criteria they want.
roflyear 3y ago
Of course this isn't true.
- hersko 3y ago
  Why?
makeitdouble 3y ago
There's an argument for the CEO's ethics and values to strongly guide the company. If engineers sharing your views and concerns don't want to work there, how are you expecting those cars to fulfill your expectations and perform on the points you value ?
kibwen 3y ago
If this were something like bread or water, then yes. But it's not. A Tesla is a luxury purchase, not an essential purchase. Nobody who chooses not to buy one because of Elon's stupid antics is going to suffer in absolutely any sense.
tommoor 3y ago
Whether we like it or not cars are a very visible and public status symbol, unlike many other purchases.
SkyPuncher 3y ago
I’m extremely skeptical to buy a Tesla because of Elon. He’s erratic and constantly making wild promises his company cannot keep. I have no problem with an eccentric CEO, but I do have a problem with the bald face lies he makes.
- drexlspivey 3y ago
  What other car companies are you boycotting due to their CEOs ?
  - metabagel 3y ago
    People factor a lot of things into major purchase decisions, and it's really not a big deal to refuse to purchase a vehicle from one or more car companies. Some people will only buy a Honda, for example. Personally, I don't want to fund Elon Musk's culture war bullshit. I don't like being lied to (FSD, and vehicle reported range). And I don't like their doing away with all of the instruments in favor of voice control and a single display.
  - archagon 3y ago
    What other companies have CEOs that are so aggressively belligerent?
    - drexlspivey 3y ago
      I would guess most of them, they just dont post on twitter for everyone to see
axlee 3y ago
"Not voting for [xxx] because you hate [xxx] is just as silly as voting for [xxx] because you hate [xxx]"
- owenpalmer 3y ago
  You are using one variable to represent both Elon and Tesla. Maybe use X and Y? Also there's a typo at the end, it should be "because you love [xxx]"
iancmceachern 3y ago
Not really. It's silly to buy from Tesla for any reason but you want one of their products, all other reasons are trivial. There are many non trivial reasons that you may not want to give your money to a company or organization.

Well no, buying from Tesla gives Elon money and legitimacy. If you don't like Musk, why would you contribute to his success?

mensetmanusman 3y ago
spacex and tesla already gave elon enough legitimacy for the history books.
- kibwen 3y ago
  Henry Ford and Wernher von Braun are also in the history books, but not always in the ways they might have hoped for.
- sophacles 3y ago
  Sure but there's still plenty of time to see if those histories will be the fawning sycophancy required by the totalitarian regimes he openly advocates for, the story of a brilliant businessman who was batshit insane (a la Ford) or the humorous tale of a fool who lucked into a few $billion and then squandered it all on an empire of trash.
golol 3y ago
Musk may be an asshole boss and he may post cringy right wing opinions on X, but trying to boycott his businesses based on those actions is quite disproportionate compared to the behaviors whole industries are engaging in regularly. Elon and his companies are in no way worse for the world than the average car manufacturer or businessman.
- axlee 3y ago
  He's simply trying to dismantle the Swedish social contract right now, but he's a good boy you see? Let's make him richer and gain more influence!
- sophacles 3y ago
  Absolute rubbish. People are allowed to make purchasing decisions based on any criteria they want.

roflyear 3y ago

Of course this isn't true.

hersko 3y ago
Why?

makeitdouble 3y ago

There's an argument for the CEO's ethics and values to strongly guide the company. If engineers sharing your views and concerns don't want to work there, how are you expecting those cars to fulfill your expectations and perform on the points you value ?

kibwen 3y ago

If this were something like bread or water, then yes. But it's not. A Tesla is a luxury purchase, not an essential purchase. Nobody who chooses not to buy one because of Elon's stupid antics is going to suffer in absolutely any sense.

tommoor 3y ago

Whether we like it or not cars are a very visible and public status symbol, unlike many other purchases.

SkyPuncher 3y ago

I’m extremely skeptical to buy a Tesla because of Elon. He’s erratic and constantly making wild promises his company cannot keep. I have no problem with an eccentric CEO, but I do have a problem with the bald face lies he makes.

drexlspivey 3y ago
What other car companies are you boycotting due to their CEOs ?
- metabagel 3y ago
  People factor a lot of things into major purchase decisions, and it's really not a big deal to refuse to purchase a vehicle from one or more car companies. Some people will only buy a Honda, for example. Personally, I don't want to fund Elon Musk's culture war bullshit. I don't like being lied to (FSD, and vehicle reported range). And I don't like their doing away with all of the instruments in favor of voice control and a single display.
- archagon 3y ago
  What other companies have CEOs that are so aggressively belligerent?
  - drexlspivey 3y ago
    I would guess most of them, they just dont post on twitter for everyone to see

axlee 3y ago

"Not voting for [xxx] because you hate [xxx] is just as silly as voting for [xxx] because you hate [xxx]"

owenpalmer 3y ago
You are using one variable to represent both Elon and Tesla. Maybe use X and Y? Also there's a typo at the end, it should be "because you love [xxx]"

iancmceachern 3y ago

Not really. It's silly to buy from Tesla for any reason but you want one of their products, all other reasons are trivial. There are many non trivial reasons that you may not want to give your money to a company or organization.