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I would be interested to learn how this works in practice. In many companies separate divisions barely collaborate or take learnings from each other. 2 separate

I would be interested to learn how this works in practice. In many companies separate divisions barely collaborate or take learnings from each other. 2 separate companies sharing learnings is unique.

me_me_me 3y ago
I work in one company and the divisions there hardly interact cuz it costs a lot in overhead. I am pretty sure the guy is making shit up.
mschuster91 3y ago
Musk does this routinely, also with the Boring Company or with Twitter - upon his acquisition, he took a lot of Tesla staff with him to Twitter HQ [1] to help out. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/31/elon-musk-has-pulled-more-than-50-tesla-engineers-into-twitter.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/31/elon-musk-has-pulled-more-th...
- metabagel 3y ago
  That was a specific case where he didn’t trust Twitter employees. And it was absolutely a galaxy brain move, given that Tesla employees had almost no domain expertise.
DennisP 3y ago
Separate divisions barely collaborating is not the case at Tesla either (or SpaceX). One of their mantras is "everybody is a chief engineer." They're all supposed to know enough about everything so they don't design parts that make trouble for other parts of the car, or for manufacturing. It's the reason they moved the new production line for the next-gen vehicle to Austin, so the engineers would be there for it. I don't think it's that unusual for companies to collaborate with each other on projects. And some of the sharing happens by default when you just encourage employees to migrate between the companies and take their knowledge with them.
- greedo 3y ago
  I'm sure that the lower regulatory environment in Texas was much more of a factor. Musk has complained for a long time about California's regulations.
  - DennisP 3y ago
    The original plan was to put the first production line in Mexico. Then Musk realized his engineers wouldn't be commuting or moving to Mexico, and he wanted them to spend time on the factory floor so they could see what was hard to make. (Source: Isaacson's Musk bio)
    - greedo 3y ago
      1. Isaacson's Musk biography was so poorly written and fawning I couldn't finish it. I take nothing in it as fact, mostly PR and hagiography. 2. Musk has had lots of plans. Plans that he dumps the minute he changes his mind.
      - DennisP 3y ago
        I thought it portrayed Musk's flaws pretty vividly, but I guess if you started out convinced that Musk is a terrible human being with no redeeming qualities whatsoever, it would seem like fawning hagiography by comparison. In any case, it was widely believed in the investor community that the Mexico plant was where the next-gen vehicle would be produced. I don't think California was ever really considered.
        greedo 3y ago
        Well, the "investor community" wasn't really well informed. Tesla wanted to pull out of California due to regulations, and was only considering Texas and Oklahoma for the CyberFridge. Texas was selected the year after the initial CyberFridge announcement. https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/22/21334860/tesla-cybertruck-factory-austin-texas-location-model-y https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/22/21334860/tesla-cybertruck...

I would be interested to learn how this works in practice. In many companies separate divisions barely collaborate or take learnings from each other. 2 separate companies sharing learnings is unique.

me_me_me 3y ago

I work in one company and the divisions there hardly interact cuz it costs a lot in overhead. I am pretty sure the guy is making shit up.

mschuster91 3y ago

Musk does this routinely, also with the Boring Company or with Twitter - upon his acquisition, he took a lot of Tesla staff with him to Twitter HQ [1] to help out. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/31/elon-musk-has-pulled-more-than-50-tesla-engineers-into-twitter.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/31/elon-musk-has-pulled-more-th...

metabagel 3y ago
That was a specific case where he didn’t trust Twitter employees. And it was absolutely a galaxy brain move, given that Tesla employees had almost no domain expertise.

DennisP 3y ago

Separate divisions barely collaborating is not the case at Tesla either (or SpaceX). One of their mantras is "everybody is a chief engineer." They're all supposed to know enough about everything so they don't design parts that make trouble for other parts of the car, or for manufacturing. It's the reason they moved the new production line for the next-gen vehicle to Austin, so the engineers would be there for it. I don't think it's that unusual for companies to collaborate with each other on projects. And some of the sharing happens by default when you just encourage employees to migrate between the companies and take their knowledge with them.

greedo 3y ago
I'm sure that the lower regulatory environment in Texas was much more of a factor. Musk has complained for a long time about California's regulations.
- DennisP 3y ago
  The original plan was to put the first production line in Mexico. Then Musk realized his engineers wouldn't be commuting or moving to Mexico, and he wanted them to spend time on the factory floor so they could see what was hard to make. (Source: Isaacson's Musk bio)
  - greedo 3y ago
    1. Isaacson's Musk biography was so poorly written and fawning I couldn't finish it. I take nothing in it as fact, mostly PR and hagiography. 2. Musk has had lots of plans. Plans that he dumps the minute he changes his mind.
    - DennisP 3y ago
      I thought it portrayed Musk's flaws pretty vividly, but I guess if you started out convinced that Musk is a terrible human being with no redeeming qualities whatsoever, it would seem like fawning hagiography by comparison. In any case, it was widely believed in the investor community that the Mexico plant was where the next-gen vehicle would be produced. I don't think California was ever really considered.
      - greedo 3y ago
        Well, the "investor community" wasn't really well informed. Tesla wanted to pull out of California due to regulations, and was only considering Texas and Oklahoma for the CyberFridge. Texas was selected the year after the initial CyberFridge announcement. https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/22/21334860/tesla-cybertruck-factory-austin-texas-location-model-y https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/22/21334860/tesla-cybertruck...