> No way BMW is that high. AFAICT certain models have been highly problematic but overall they're very reliable things as shown by these numbers in TFA!? Wife

> No way BMW is that high. AFAICT certain models have been highly problematic but overall they're very reliable things as shown by these numbers in TFA!? Wife's BMW 3-series: it only started having electrical issues once it got very old and it was nothing too bad (heck, some I even fixed myself). Then she got a Toyota CHR hybrid: great car, but not for highway driving (at least not at speeds on european highways). She now bought a 4-series, used, five years old. One year and absolutely zero issue. A friend of mine at the same time bought a used 5-series (24 months old): zero issues. I don't hear many people around me complaining about reliability issues on their BMWs (in the country where I used to live, Belgium, it's literally the brand the most sold, before Volkswagen and then Mercedes [1] and in the country where I live now it's the 3rd most sold brand). > I remember because I was joking yesterday with my partner that we should never buy a Beamer. They're good cars however I'm not sure I'd buy a german car if I was living in the US again. I did it and, well, it's my experience that german cars are easier to service/fix in europe (especially when you live in germany or close to germany) than in the US. I'd probably go for a japanese car. [1] Numbers for 2023: https://www.focus2move.com/belgium-auto-sales https://www.focus2move.com/belgium-auto-sales