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Snapdragon X Elite is faster than all but the M3 Max. From what I've seen it actually beats the M3 series in single-core performance. That Nuvia acquisition h

by scq 3y ago

Snapdragon X Elite is faster than all but the M3 Max. From what I've seen it actually beats the M3 series in single-core performance. That Nuvia acquisition has really paid off for Qualcomm.

darklion 3y ago
> Snapdragon X Elite is faster than all but the M3 Max. > From what I've seen it actually beats the M3 series in single-core performance. Citations? Because from what I have found [1], Qualcomm only claims it’s 7% faster than a non-Pro, non-Max M2 in single-core. It’s 50% faster than the M2 in multi-core but that’s using 50% more cores And all of this on a system with a TDP almost 4 times that of the M2 system, meaning it’s consuming a lot more power to get essentially the same performance. All of this on a chip that’s coming out in 2024 at the earliest, when Apple will be introducing the M4 series — two generations down the road from what the Elite X is performing at. — [1] https://www.tomshardware.com/news/snapdragon-x-elite-outperforms-intel-amd-apple-cpus-in-vendor-benchmarks https://www.tomshardware.com/news/snapdragon-x-elite-outperf...
- scq 3y ago
  Looks like the numbers I was looking at were for the high-power configuration, and differed a little between sources, nontheless the low-power configuration, which has a significantly lower TDP (23W) than the M3 Pro (~30W), while having the same core count, is still very close to M3 Pro performance even if M3 Pro is a bit higher. https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/zwxHUu7zdH4y5wgbzpwnD9-970-80.jpg https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/zwxHUu7zdH4y5wgbzpwnD9-970..., from https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/laptops/results-are-in-qualcomms-snapdragon-x-elite-goes-toe-to-toe-with-apples-new-m3-pro-processor https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/laptops/results-are-...
  - zamadatix 3y ago
    Your graph says the single core performance of the high tdp option is lower than any of the M3 models and the multi core performance is lower than both the pro and max. It is close though, but it's also comparing CPUs out now to CPUs to be released in the future.
    - darklion 3y ago
      Not to mention, Qualcomm has a pretty bad history of meeting its promised dates. In 2021, it claimed to be on track to shipping M-series-level chips in 2023. [1] In 2022, it claimed to be on track to shipping M-series-level chips in 2023. [2] Now, in 2023, it claims to be on track to shipping M-series-level chips in 2024. At least that date is still in the future, but I think it should be looked at skeptically in light of their past unfulfilled promises. —- [1] https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/16/22785181/qualcomm-next-gen-cpu-pc-apple-m1-competitor-2023 https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/16/22785181/qualcomm-next-g... [2] https://www.pcworld.com/article/1382740/qualcomm-dubs-nuvia-cpu-oryon-on-track-for-2023.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/1382740/qualcomm-dubs-nuvia-...

by scq 3y ago

Snapdragon X Elite is faster than all but the M3 Max. From what I've seen it actually beats the M3 series in single-core performance. That Nuvia acquisition has really paid off for Qualcomm.

darklion 3y ago

> Snapdragon X Elite is faster than all but the M3 Max. > From what I've seen it actually beats the M3 series in single-core performance. Citations? Because from what I have found [1], Qualcomm only claims it’s 7% faster than a non-Pro, non-Max M2 in single-core. It’s 50% faster than the M2 in multi-core but that’s using 50% more cores And all of this on a system with a TDP almost 4 times that of the M2 system, meaning it’s consuming a lot more power to get essentially the same performance. All of this on a chip that’s coming out in 2024 at the earliest, when Apple will be introducing the M4 series — two generations down the road from what the Elite X is performing at. — [1] https://www.tomshardware.com/news/snapdragon-x-elite-outperforms-intel-amd-apple-cpus-in-vendor-benchmarks https://www.tomshardware.com/news/snapdragon-x-elite-outperf...

scq 3y ago
Looks like the numbers I was looking at were for the high-power configuration, and differed a little between sources, nontheless the low-power configuration, which has a significantly lower TDP (23W) than the M3 Pro (~30W), while having the same core count, is still very close to M3 Pro performance even if M3 Pro is a bit higher. https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/zwxHUu7zdH4y5wgbzpwnD9-970-80.jpg https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/zwxHUu7zdH4y5wgbzpwnD9-970..., from https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/laptops/results-are-in-qualcomms-snapdragon-x-elite-goes-toe-to-toe-with-apples-new-m3-pro-processor https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/laptops/results-are-...
- zamadatix 3y ago
  Your graph says the single core performance of the high tdp option is lower than any of the M3 models and the multi core performance is lower than both the pro and max. It is close though, but it's also comparing CPUs out now to CPUs to be released in the future.
  - darklion 3y ago
    Not to mention, Qualcomm has a pretty bad history of meeting its promised dates. In 2021, it claimed to be on track to shipping M-series-level chips in 2023. [1] In 2022, it claimed to be on track to shipping M-series-level chips in 2023. [2] Now, in 2023, it claims to be on track to shipping M-series-level chips in 2024. At least that date is still in the future, but I think it should be looked at skeptically in light of their past unfulfilled promises. —- [1] https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/16/22785181/qualcomm-next-gen-cpu-pc-apple-m1-competitor-2023 https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/16/22785181/qualcomm-next-g... [2] https://www.pcworld.com/article/1382740/qualcomm-dubs-nuvia-cpu-oryon-on-track-for-2023.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/1382740/qualcomm-dubs-nuvia-...