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If Oracle wins its Android suit, everyone loses

17 points by Mitt 15y ago

taligent 15y ago
"Google procured a virtual machine for Android intended to avoid all of Sun's JVM patents" Well that makes them either naive or stupid. They should have tried to acquire a license from Sun whilst they were friendly towards Android. And I don't know what planet the author is from but Google having to pay royalties for Android wouldn't change the mobile market at all. Ask Microsoft.
- vetinari 15y ago
  Android virtual machine is not jvm, why do you think it makes them naive or stupid? Does it also make Microsoft naive or stupid, when they designed CLR VM for Windows Phone? Google does not pay royalties for Android, and neither does Motorola or Sony. Notice that only vendors that also sell Windows pay the royalty.
sutro 15y ago
If Oracle wins on this bogus computer-languages-are-copywritable claim, I hope IBM sues them to oblivion for their use of SQL through the years. It's sad that a company can be so ignorant of its own history.
- tzs 15y ago
  SQL is a standard. I believe IBM encouraged and participated in the standardization. That greatly undercuts any case IBM would have against anybody for using SQL. Java is not a standard.
JoachimSchipper 15y ago
If you care about this, read groklaw (e.g. http://groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100813112425821 http://groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100813112425821) instead. It's much better.
wavephorm 15y ago
If Google loses, they will be known for making one of the biggest blunders in tech history by not buying Sun Microsystems. I assume it was Eric Schmidt who axed that deal. I curiously kind of hope Google loses, it would shake up the mobile market quite a bit.
maeon3 15y ago
Also, Oracle needs to be paying retroactive benefits to the interpreted assembly languages that are used to convert Java to machine code. It's only fair that the creators of these languages receive the full benefits of their contributions. Time to scramble and find out who owns all of the millions of languages in the world, computer, spoken, symbolic, memespeak, they are now going to be traded like the stock market, and they all go IPO when a law declares them copyrightable. I wonder who owns sign language?

17 points by Mitt 15y ago

"Google procured a virtual machine for Android intended to avoid all of Sun's JVM patents" Well that makes them either naive or stupid. They should have tried to acquire a license from Sun whilst they were friendly towards Android. And I don't know what planet the author is from but Google having to pay royalties for Android wouldn't change the mobile market at all. Ask Microsoft.

vetinari 15y ago
Android virtual machine is not jvm, why do you think it makes them naive or stupid? Does it also make Microsoft naive or stupid, when they designed CLR VM for Windows Phone? Google does not pay royalties for Android, and neither does Motorola or Sony. Notice that only vendors that also sell Windows pay the royalty.

sutro 15y ago

If Oracle wins on this bogus computer-languages-are-copywritable claim, I hope IBM sues them to oblivion for their use of SQL through the years. It's sad that a company can be so ignorant of its own history.

tzs 15y ago
SQL is a standard. I believe IBM encouraged and participated in the standardization. That greatly undercuts any case IBM would have against anybody for using SQL. Java is not a standard.

JoachimSchipper 15y ago

If you care about this, read groklaw (e.g. http://groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100813112425821 http://groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100813112425821) instead. It's much better.

wavephorm 15y ago

If Google loses, they will be known for making one of the biggest blunders in tech history by not buying Sun Microsystems. I assume it was Eric Schmidt who axed that deal. I curiously kind of hope Google loses, it would shake up the mobile market quite a bit.

maeon3 15y ago

Also, Oracle needs to be paying retroactive benefits to the interpreted assembly languages that are used to convert Java to machine code. It's only fair that the creators of these languages receive the full benefits of their contributions. Time to scramble and find out who owns all of the millions of languages in the world, computer, spoken, symbolic, memespeak, they are now going to be traded like the stock market, and they all go IPO when a law declares them copyrightable. I wonder who owns sign language?