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Love nextcloud in theory, but it is a tangled and ugly mess of a UI. It is slow and they spend time on features that only the devs seem to care about. Problem

Love nextcloud in theory, but it is a tangled and ugly mess of a UI. It is slow and they spend time on features that only the devs seem to care about. Problem with free and open source software is that you have to follow the passion of the devs, which can sometimes optimize out of usefulness. Because of this, I think this is very bad news for roundcube.

gerdesj 3y ago
I run around 15 Nextcloud instances. One is for 1500 odd people for whom safety is quite important - it delivers lots of docs to a lot of devices. Those users are moving pretty fast and rove in and out of some form of ethernet service with a lot of irregularity. My home service has to deal with some huge users (wife, phone, camera) (dad, constant saving, vast numbers of docs). Work instance - all of the above! I very rarely deal with the web UI but when I do it simply works or when I look into /pictures etc: locks up but that is generally the browser giving up and not the app. I migrated a post office with several domains from RC to Snappy Mail. RC seemed to have stalled a few years back. SM is rather nifty so I'll stick.
dugite-code 3y ago
> I think this is very bad news for roundcube. Roundcube has been languishing a bit since the failed Roundcube-next fiasco. You can criticize the Nextcloud group for many things but at least they have proven to be consistent with pushing forward their open source projects. > tangled and ugly mess of a UI Maybe I'm an odd one but I have no issues with the UI. It's clean yet more info dense than many other commercial offerings. > It is slow I have mine working better than any google property. Nextcloud relies heavily on a performant database setup, so moving that to a separate NVME drive was one of the greatest improvements I ever made. That and properly handling image preview generation. > Problem with free and open source software is that you have to follow the passion of the devs Nextcloud is produced by a commercial entity, they are not a passion project. They target large installations and so tend to focus on that use-case. This makes tuning the stack to a small deployment a little bit of work.
- GoblinSlayer 3y ago
  The bad news is that webdevs will ship the fiasco.

gerdesj 3y ago

I run around 15 Nextcloud instances. One is for 1500 odd people for whom safety is quite important - it delivers lots of docs to a lot of devices. Those users are moving pretty fast and rove in and out of some form of ethernet service with a lot of irregularity. My home service has to deal with some huge users (wife, phone, camera) (dad, constant saving, vast numbers of docs). Work instance - all of the above! I very rarely deal with the web UI but when I do it simply works or when I look into /pictures etc: locks up but that is generally the browser giving up and not the app. I migrated a post office with several domains from RC to Snappy Mail. RC seemed to have stalled a few years back. SM is rather nifty so I'll stick.

dugite-code 3y ago

> I think this is very bad news for roundcube. Roundcube has been languishing a bit since the failed Roundcube-next fiasco. You can criticize the Nextcloud group for many things but at least they have proven to be consistent with pushing forward their open source projects. > tangled and ugly mess of a UI Maybe I'm an odd one but I have no issues with the UI. It's clean yet more info dense than many other commercial offerings. > It is slow I have mine working better than any google property. Nextcloud relies heavily on a performant database setup, so moving that to a separate NVME drive was one of the greatest improvements I ever made. That and properly handling image preview generation. > Problem with free and open source software is that you have to follow the passion of the devs Nextcloud is produced by a commercial entity, they are not a passion project. They target large installations and so tend to focus on that use-case. This makes tuning the stack to a small deployment a little bit of work.

GoblinSlayer 3y ago
The bad news is that webdevs will ship the fiasco.