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I think what Brin is highlighting here is a problem in those 2 companies. Mentioning other problems that Google itself has doesn't take away from those companie

• rbarooah 15y ago
  It is on topic - Google has the exact same openness issues that these other companies have, and yet Brin fails to mention this.
  • intended 15y ago
    If you had to rank them, Google would be the lesser of the offenders. Even more so, considering the vast amount of information they DO have.
    • rbarooah 15y ago
      That doesn't make it any less hypocritical when they attacking others for doing it. If they think it's a problem they should stop doing it themselves.
      • intended 15y ago
        Come now, that's hardly fair - you are asking them to unilaterally open their doors And be open with their data, while the others would obviously not reciprocate. Your standard for credibility ensures the speakers suicide, at which point there is no conversation to be had because the remaining players don't give a damn. How do you suggest they go about handling this? Edited for brevity.
        • rbarooah 15y ago
          I suggest they acknowledge that business realities are driving them to do the same thing but that it would be better for everyone if they could find a way to cooperate. Painting themselves as somehow superior while they engage in the same behavior doesn't seem likely to engender trust.