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Apple has a special deal with Arm because they used to be in a Joint Venture with Acorn https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/09/05/apple-arm-have-been-crucial-

Apple has a special deal with Arm because they used to be in a Joint Venture with Acorn https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/09/05/apple-arm-have-been-crucial-to-each-others-survival-for-three-decades https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/09/05/apple-arm-have-be... Apple invested $3 million to own 43% of the company. That investment was specifically to fund the design and development of the ARM processor for what would become the Apple Newton MessagePad.

tibbydudeza 3y ago
Was VSLI not also a partner since they fabbed the first ARM ???. There was a BBC series called "Micro Men" which covered the development of ARM, Acorn and the BBC Micro.
- hypercube33 3y ago
  Just watched this based on your suggestion and it's really good. Anything like this for the newton or anything else?
  - tibbydudeza 3y ago
    The German guy (Hermann Hauser) is still around doing his thing - think living in the UK rubbed off on him. Roundtable of the 10th year anniversary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaonVYOTSsk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaonVYOTSsk
  - dagmx 3y ago
    General Magic is always a strong recommendation in the valley
russellbeattie 3y ago
Didn't you read your own link? Jobs sold that 43% in the 90s for $1.1 billion to keep Apple afloat at the time. The reason that Apple doesn't pay much to ARM is because of the long term "architectural license" that Jobs negotiated in the 2000s well before it was clear that ARM would be the dominant powerhouse in mobile devices. At the time, Intel was pushing a low power version of their Atom chip, and Apple used that as leverage to get a deal from ARM. That type of license meant that Apple was in full control over their implementation, meaning they don't rely on the rest of ARM's IP like other licensees do. It doesn't use any Cortex designs, for instance, or any thing else in the stack. This means Apple uses less of ARM tech than any other licensee while still remaining ARM compatible.
hypercube33 3y ago
Didn't both Intel and AMD have big projects for Arm?

tibbydudeza 3y ago

Was VSLI not also a partner since they fabbed the first ARM ???. There was a BBC series called "Micro Men" which covered the development of ARM, Acorn and the BBC Micro.

hypercube33 3y ago
Just watched this based on your suggestion and it's really good. Anything like this for the newton or anything else?
- tibbydudeza 3y ago
  The German guy (Hermann Hauser) is still around doing his thing - think living in the UK rubbed off on him. Roundtable of the 10th year anniversary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaonVYOTSsk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaonVYOTSsk
- dagmx 3y ago
  General Magic is always a strong recommendation in the valley

russellbeattie 3y ago

Didn't you read your own link? Jobs sold that 43% in the 90s for $1.1 billion to keep Apple afloat at the time. The reason that Apple doesn't pay much to ARM is because of the long term "architectural license" that Jobs negotiated in the 2000s well before it was clear that ARM would be the dominant powerhouse in mobile devices. At the time, Intel was pushing a low power version of their Atom chip, and Apple used that as leverage to get a deal from ARM. That type of license meant that Apple was in full control over their implementation, meaning they don't rely on the rest of ARM's IP like other licensees do. It doesn't use any Cortex designs, for instance, or any thing else in the stack. This means Apple uses less of ARM tech than any other licensee while still remaining ARM compatible.

hypercube33 3y ago

Didn't both Intel and AMD have big projects for Arm?