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It's grim seeing seniors struggling to get jobs. As a junior, I'm eagerly awaiting my cue to start applying again. That is, once the deluge of threads about str

It's grim seeing seniors struggling to get jobs. As a junior, I'm eagerly awaiting my cue to start applying again. That is, once the deluge of threads about struggling seniors abates, which has been happening for quite a while and doesn't seem to be stopping anytime soon. I hope you guys make it, because if you can't, that means I definitely can't.

bdcravens 3y ago
Not necessarily true. The types, locations, and pay of roles vary, and HN can create a type of confirmation bias. Boring jobs looking to hire on the lower end can't really be compared with the senior who is used to making $300k with equity.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago
  I mean, I'd be fine with mid-senior level and 120k with basic benefits. But jobs in general are tighter, not just the cream of the crop.
muzani 3y ago
There's been a bit of a tech bubble lately. Salaries got higher than they would have, because a lot of it was fueled by VC and crypto money. People kept the dot com boom in mind back when apps were booming, but not with crypto and FAANG. Nobody wants to take a pay cut, go to a $250k job after a $300k job. There's still junior roles and with AI coming up, there's plenty of new stuff that many seniors won't touch. I got my ticket into tech back when everyone wanted to do iOS and Windows Phone, and Android was some runt that even BlackBerry users laughed at. Did desktop to mobile redesigns, which led to responsive web work, and just building apps. There's very likely plenty of new jobs which seniors won't take. Heck, there's still a gap in the market for Flutter jobs here - seniors tend to go for native Android/iOS or React Native because they want to take advantage of the 10 years of experience.
idontwantthis 3y ago
Please do not take the internet so seriously. You would be a fool to “await your cue” just because of scary stories. As a junior you can start anywhere.
throwaway4233 3y ago
Based on my personal experience, interviewing for senior roles in technology feels much more difficult than the interviews I did for a junior or mid level roles. Interviewing in general, is like a Venn diagram where your experience and the interviewer's experience are the circles and you need to find a way to ensure that the questions being asked end up in the intersection where you both know well enough to showcase your skills. As the role one is applying for more gets more senior, the larger the circles on both sides become, and it sometimes ends up being too hard to get to that intersection in the short duration of an interview. That being said, I would recommend to to start applying for jobs, since the interview experience itself would be helpful to understand where you might need to improve.

bdcravens 3y ago

Not necessarily true. The types, locations, and pay of roles vary, and HN can create a type of confirmation bias. Boring jobs looking to hire on the lower end can't really be compared with the senior who is used to making $300k with equity.

johnnyanmac 3y ago
I mean, I'd be fine with mid-senior level and 120k with basic benefits. But jobs in general are tighter, not just the cream of the crop.

muzani 3y ago

There's been a bit of a tech bubble lately. Salaries got higher than they would have, because a lot of it was fueled by VC and crypto money. People kept the dot com boom in mind back when apps were booming, but not with crypto and FAANG. Nobody wants to take a pay cut, go to a $250k job after a $300k job. There's still junior roles and with AI coming up, there's plenty of new stuff that many seniors won't touch. I got my ticket into tech back when everyone wanted to do iOS and Windows Phone, and Android was some runt that even BlackBerry users laughed at. Did desktop to mobile redesigns, which led to responsive web work, and just building apps. There's very likely plenty of new jobs which seniors won't take. Heck, there's still a gap in the market for Flutter jobs here - seniors tend to go for native Android/iOS or React Native because they want to take advantage of the 10 years of experience.

idontwantthis 3y ago

Please do not take the internet so seriously. You would be a fool to “await your cue” just because of scary stories. As a junior you can start anywhere.

throwaway4233 3y ago

Based on my personal experience, interviewing for senior roles in technology feels much more difficult than the interviews I did for a junior or mid level roles. Interviewing in general, is like a Venn diagram where your experience and the interviewer's experience are the circles and you need to find a way to ensure that the questions being asked end up in the intersection where you both know well enough to showcase your skills. As the role one is applying for more gets more senior, the larger the circles on both sides become, and it sometimes ends up being too hard to get to that intersection in the short duration of an interview. That being said, I would recommend to to start applying for jobs, since the interview experience itself would be helpful to understand where you might need to improve.