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I've had a DBA refuse to do something for me, with me being a contractor and he being full timer. I remember I basically said "I've a dev, you're an admin your

I've had a DBA refuse to do something for me, with me being a contractor and he being full timer. I remember I basically said "I've a dev, you're an admin your purpose in life is to implement what I build, given I have no access, so just fucking do it". I'd previously had someone talk smack to me on the phone when I needed something, so I hung up and went over to their desk and chewed them out loudly. This was the same place where one day after work I was at the pub with my workmates and I was profanely bad mouthing the head of IT as an incompetent boob (with just cause) and everyone was kicking me under the table trying to get me to shut up because his offsider was at the table listening. Two days later I look up to see him being marched past my desk and off the premises by security. He'd been fired. So maybe I was the bad person in that office, but these people just refused to do their job for no explicable reason. I remember everyone told me they've never heard anyone swear at work as much as I did, but they named a server after me after I left so they seemed to appreciate me.

johnnyanmac 3y ago
Hope you took some personal reflection out of that instead of just concluding with "well I got my namesake at the job so that's nice". I don't got time to yell at people, I took an IC track for a reason. If I'm blocked, that's a lead's or manager's problem to solve or escalate. As a bonus, it leaves a paper trail that I don't need to lay out most of to begin with (just get it rolling).
- dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
  I didn't yell at anyone who didn't yell at me first, I merely gave as good as I got. My manager didn't want to know about this sort of minor stuff, you don't go crying to them with every small thing they just get annoyed. They already know that these people are problematic, I wasn't the first person to have these problems. In every other job I did not have this experience. Everyone was fine and polite and did their jobs, and so was I. The above job was in a merchant bank in London and very high pressure, yet people were slack and useless. I just called them out on their behavior. I was never reprimanded for any of my behaviour. My manager's manager invited me to return when I left (I had to leave due to an illness in my family) because of my work. Some workplaces are just dysfunctional, like this one, the fact that the head of department was sacked gives you an idea. I was one of the few people who stood up to this culture and plowed through and fixed things. I sorted out several system breaking bugs while I was there, that has festered for years.
  - johnnyanmac 3y ago
    >My manager didn't want to know about this sort of minor stuff, you don't go crying to them with every small thing they just get annoyed in my eyes, cool. Its their job to be annoyed and solve the people issues. If they don't want to do their job, why should I do it for them? They are probably paid more than me precisely to solve the annoying problems. That's just my view of things. I've tried to be loyal and put the best intentions of the company first and everytime they lay me off without a second thought. I'm not on nor am interested in management track so I'm not going to "rise up to the occasion" and do more communication and leadership than I'm expected to. I was never rewarded for trying to fix dysfunctional behavior so I don't see the benefit for me. But hey, if it worked out for you that's good. We all have different experiences. You mentioning London implies you probably have the exact opposite problem with terminating employees than I do (in the US), so I can start to see your POV on the issue.

johnnyanmac 3y ago

Hope you took some personal reflection out of that instead of just concluding with "well I got my namesake at the job so that's nice". I don't got time to yell at people, I took an IC track for a reason. If I'm blocked, that's a lead's or manager's problem to solve or escalate. As a bonus, it leaves a paper trail that I don't need to lay out most of to begin with (just get it rolling).

dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
I didn't yell at anyone who didn't yell at me first, I merely gave as good as I got. My manager didn't want to know about this sort of minor stuff, you don't go crying to them with every small thing they just get annoyed. They already know that these people are problematic, I wasn't the first person to have these problems. In every other job I did not have this experience. Everyone was fine and polite and did their jobs, and so was I. The above job was in a merchant bank in London and very high pressure, yet people were slack and useless. I just called them out on their behavior. I was never reprimanded for any of my behaviour. My manager's manager invited me to return when I left (I had to leave due to an illness in my family) because of my work. Some workplaces are just dysfunctional, like this one, the fact that the head of department was sacked gives you an idea. I was one of the few people who stood up to this culture and plowed through and fixed things. I sorted out several system breaking bugs while I was there, that has festered for years.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago
  >My manager didn't want to know about this sort of minor stuff, you don't go crying to them with every small thing they just get annoyed in my eyes, cool. Its their job to be annoyed and solve the people issues. If they don't want to do their job, why should I do it for them? They are probably paid more than me precisely to solve the annoying problems. That's just my view of things. I've tried to be loyal and put the best intentions of the company first and everytime they lay me off without a second thought. I'm not on nor am interested in management track so I'm not going to "rise up to the occasion" and do more communication and leadership than I'm expected to. I was never rewarded for trying to fix dysfunctional behavior so I don't see the benefit for me. But hey, if it worked out for you that's good. We all have different experiences. You mentioning London implies you probably have the exact opposite problem with terminating employees than I do (in the US), so I can start to see your POV on the issue.