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Free will skepticism doesn't mean the future can't be altered by changes in present circumstances. Presenting arguments changes one's circumstances and so can c
by hackinthebochs 3y ago
Free will skepticism doesn't mean the future can't be altered by changes in present circumstances. Presenting arguments changes one's circumstances and so can change future belief states. Free will generally means more than just making choices.
I can't vouch for Sapolsky's presentation, but what science tells us is that branching dynamics, the substrate of choice, supervenes on non-branching dynamics. What that means for free will/moral responsibility isn't so obvious.
- RcouF1uZ4gsC 3y agoWhat are “belief” and “arguments” in a world without free will?
- hackinthebochs 3y agoA state of mind that disposes one to various thoughts and behaviors. There doesn't seem to be any tension between belief and a lack of free will.
- qez2 3y agoThere is indeed a tension of one defines free will in terms of thoughts and behaviors.
- hackinthebochs 3y agoYou're going to have to spell it out because it's not obvious.
- qez2 3y ago[dead]
- RcouF1uZ4gsC 3y agoHow are arguments different from physical actions (for example what is the difference between telling someone something and applying electric shocks to them) in a world without free will? Aren’t they all purely physical stimuli that produce a certain response? I am sure an electric shock also produces a certain state of mind.
- hackinthebochs 3y agoWell, physical actions come in many different flavors. One of those flavors is beliefs, i.e. a particular neural configuration with a certain semantic relationship within its host and the outside world. E.g. one that disposes further relevant neural configurations and relevant behaviors. I don't see the problem.
- graphe 3y agoThe same as it's always been. You've just been redpilled. Just as usual, as it's always been since you were alive; its the way your brain is shaped and connected.