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Now can you elaborate on how/why is lab-produced synthetic food based on plants better for our organism? won't they qualify as ultra-processed products, so you'

Now can you elaborate on how/why is lab-produced synthetic food based on plants better for our organism? won't they qualify as ultra-processed products, so you're pretty much trading your health for protecting the environment?

wredue 3y ago
Ignoring that cultivated meats should be generally indistinguishable from their host, there are many ways that cultivated meats will be better for humanity Animals tend to be parasitic hosts, which is where lots of our cooking temperature guidelines come from Animal / human viral crossovers can make more deadly virus variants, so reducing that exposure is probably better for us Cultivated meats should ultimately result in lower emissions, so if you’re anywhere near a coal fired plant, that will directly result in lower cancer rates This should similarly have a positive impact on climate change
- MacsHeadroom 3y ago
  Foodborne parasites are not a major health problem in the developed world. A litany of ills stemming from ultra processed foods are. Your reply doesn't seem to have actually addressed the question raised in the previous comment.
  - bakuninsbart 3y ago
    Ultra-processed does not necessarily imply being unhealthy, and lab-grown meat isn't ultra-processed. Arguably, it is less processed than farm-grown meat. And it doesn't involve the extreme suffering of animals, a point not even raised yet, but far more important than your health.
- xinayder 3y ago
  Okay but what about the actual benefits for our health? All these things you mentioned have little to no effect on our health (nutrition wise).
  - wredue 3y ago
    >cultivated meats should be generally indistinguishable from their hosts >you should get sick less There doesn’t need to be health benefits anyway. This is a ridiculous “whataboutism” that you’re putting forth.
- seec 3y ago
  Funny thing is that you are much more likely to get food poisoning from salads than from anything else, including raw meat like you would find in a "tartare". But yes, cooking meat products at a certain temperature ensures safety because normally no bacteria should be able to survive those temperatures. But at the same time, we also do it because it tastes better that way, it's pre-processed for digestion and we can come up with lots of creative ways to mix and match with other types of foods. Reducing it to a safety measure is extremely shortsighted. In fact, I wish vegetable processing was held up to the same standard, because in the end you are much more likely to have trouble with this part of your food. If you have digestion problems, chances are it is most likely poorly processed beans/veggies or bacteria on raw veggies...

wredue 3y ago

Ignoring that cultivated meats should be generally indistinguishable from their host, there are many ways that cultivated meats will be better for humanity Animals tend to be parasitic hosts, which is where lots of our cooking temperature guidelines come from Animal / human viral crossovers can make more deadly virus variants, so reducing that exposure is probably better for us Cultivated meats should ultimately result in lower emissions, so if you’re anywhere near a coal fired plant, that will directly result in lower cancer rates This should similarly have a positive impact on climate change

MacsHeadroom 3y ago
Foodborne parasites are not a major health problem in the developed world. A litany of ills stemming from ultra processed foods are. Your reply doesn't seem to have actually addressed the question raised in the previous comment.
- bakuninsbart 3y ago
  Ultra-processed does not necessarily imply being unhealthy, and lab-grown meat isn't ultra-processed. Arguably, it is less processed than farm-grown meat. And it doesn't involve the extreme suffering of animals, a point not even raised yet, but far more important than your health.
xinayder 3y ago
Okay but what about the actual benefits for our health? All these things you mentioned have little to no effect on our health (nutrition wise).
- wredue 3y ago
  >cultivated meats should be generally indistinguishable from their hosts >you should get sick less There doesn’t need to be health benefits anyway. This is a ridiculous “whataboutism” that you’re putting forth.
seec 3y ago
Funny thing is that you are much more likely to get food poisoning from salads than from anything else, including raw meat like you would find in a "tartare". But yes, cooking meat products at a certain temperature ensures safety because normally no bacteria should be able to survive those temperatures. But at the same time, we also do it because it tastes better that way, it's pre-processed for digestion and we can come up with lots of creative ways to mix and match with other types of foods. Reducing it to a safety measure is extremely shortsighted. In fact, I wish vegetable processing was held up to the same standard, because in the end you are much more likely to have trouble with this part of your food. If you have digestion problems, chances are it is most likely poorly processed beans/veggies or bacteria on raw veggies...