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12-18mos before that changes. no company in the world is going to maintain 2 separate software products that compete with each other. They will be merged, my p

12-18mos before that changes. no company in the world is going to maintain 2 separate software products that compete with each other. They will be merged, my prediction is 12 to 18 mos

collegeburner 3y ago
which sucks bc nextcloud is an ugly, heavyweight beast of a suite to run. whereas roundcube i'm happy running it on my lightweight el cheapo VPS.
- botanical 3y ago
  Nextcloud looks clunky but it certainly isn't heavyweight
  - coolliquidcode 3y ago
    Isn't it PHP based. I worry about anything written in that turd of a language.
    - lhoff 3y ago
      But so is Roundcube. OT: please (re)read the HN Guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - coolliquidcode 3y ago
        You saying I'm flamebaiting? I doubt anyone is going to be offended by PHP being trash, especially anyone that has spent any serious time working with it.
      - coolliquidcode 3y ago
        Then I wouldn't use Roundcube either.
        ColoursofOSINT 3y ago
        What? You said "i'm happy running it on my ...vps." And now "Then I wouldn't use Roundcube either." So you're not running roundcube then? Also, love how you said you loved roundcube because it works on "lightweight el cheapo VPS", and then backtracked once you found out it uses PHP.
        coolliquidcode 3y ago
        I think you think I'm someone else.
        ColoursofOSINT 3y ago
        You're correct, I'll retract my statement. Both start with coll/cooll, I've got to increase my zoom apparently.
        coolliquidcode 3y ago
        Honestly it's a mistake I would make too.
    - ale42 3y ago
      I guess you still think about PHP when it was version 3 or 4... we're at version 8.3 now and it's definitely not the same thing. Both for language and performance.
      - coolliquidcode 3y ago
        I remember looking at some new features and was so hopeful the language would get better but they had some super cargo culty take on something borrowed from another language that completely missed the point. It's a horribly done me too language where the developers don't fully understand what they are "me too"ing. 7.0 had some issues so bad it's almost impossible to find anymore. Seems like they tried to erase it from the internet. The language itself is an attack vector.
- ohthehugemanate 3y ago
  Heavyweight? I run it (with all the collab suite features, photo galleries, and ai integrations) on a single RPi4 along with several other applications. But then I only have a handful of users...

12-18mos before that changes. no company in the world is going to maintain 2 separate software products that compete with each other. They will be merged, my prediction is 12 to 18 mos

collegeburner 3y ago

which sucks bc nextcloud is an ugly, heavyweight beast of a suite to run. whereas roundcube i'm happy running it on my lightweight el cheapo VPS.

botanical 3y ago
Nextcloud looks clunky but it certainly isn't heavyweight
- coolliquidcode 3y ago
  Isn't it PHP based. I worry about anything written in that turd of a language.
  - lhoff 3y ago
    But so is Roundcube. OT: please (re)read the HN Guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - coolliquidcode 3y ago
      You saying I'm flamebaiting? I doubt anyone is going to be offended by PHP being trash, especially anyone that has spent any serious time working with it.
    - coolliquidcode 3y ago
      Then I wouldn't use Roundcube either.
      - ColoursofOSINT 3y ago
        What? You said "i'm happy running it on my ...vps." And now "Then I wouldn't use Roundcube either." So you're not running roundcube then? Also, love how you said you loved roundcube because it works on "lightweight el cheapo VPS", and then backtracked once you found out it uses PHP.
        coolliquidcode 3y ago
        I think you think I'm someone else.
        ColoursofOSINT 3y ago
        You're correct, I'll retract my statement. Both start with coll/cooll, I've got to increase my zoom apparently.
        coolliquidcode 3y ago
        Honestly it's a mistake I would make too.
  - ale42 3y ago
    I guess you still think about PHP when it was version 3 or 4... we're at version 8.3 now and it's definitely not the same thing. Both for language and performance.
    - coolliquidcode 3y ago
      I remember looking at some new features and was so hopeful the language would get better but they had some super cargo culty take on something borrowed from another language that completely missed the point. It's a horribly done me too language where the developers don't fully understand what they are "me too"ing. 7.0 had some issues so bad it's almost impossible to find anymore. Seems like they tried to erase it from the internet. The language itself is an attack vector.
ohthehugemanate 3y ago
Heavyweight? I run it (with all the collab suite features, photo galleries, and ai integrations) on a single RPi4 along with several other applications. But then I only have a handful of users...